Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Iconic WWII photo honored at Berlin exhibit (proto-photo-shop)
Associated Press ^ | Jun 15, 2008 | A.J. Goldmann

Posted on 06/15/2008 11:26:51 AM PDT by decimon

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-49 next last
There is nothing new under the silver halide.
1 posted on 06/15/2008 11:26:51 AM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: decimon

Ernst Volland, one of the exhibit’s curators, calls the Reichstag photo “120 percent propaganda” — especially since it was made to order according to Soviet dictator Josef Stalin’s specifications.
**

Took the words out of my mouth.


2 posted on 06/15/2008 11:29:56 AM PDT by max americana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
We see a lot of the same dishonest reporting today in the MSM.
3 posted on 06/15/2008 11:30:04 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon

Isn’t the well know Iwo Jima photo also staged, or is that another rumor?


4 posted on 06/15/2008 11:30:45 AM PDT by realdifferent1 (I hope the 'War on Terror' goes better than the 'War on Poverty'.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
Sometimes it helps to post the photo.


5 posted on 06/15/2008 11:32:24 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
You can't have a thread about photos with photos!

In this May 2, 1945 file photo, Soviet soldiers hoist the red flag over the Reichstag in Berlin. It's one of the iconic images of World War II: Soviet soldiers hoisting a red flag on top of the Reichstag after the fall of Berlin. What most people don't realize, however, is that the photograph isn't capturing the historical moment. Yevgeni Khaldei staged the scene on May 2, 1945 — three days after the Soviets had captured the key seat of Nazi power. (AP Photo/ ITAR-TASS, Yevgeny Khaldei,FILE)

In this May 2, 1945 file photo, Soviet soldiers hoist the red flag over the Reichstag in Berlin. It's one of the iconic images of World War II: Soviet soldiers hoisting a red flag on top of the Reichstag after the fall of Berlin. What most people don't realize, however, is that the photograph isn't capturing the historical moment. Yevgeni Khaldei staged the scene on May 2, 1945 — three days after the Soviets had captured the key seat of Nazi power. (AP Photo/ITAR-TASS, Yevgeny Khaldei, FILE)

In this Feb. 1990 file photo veteran photographer Yevgeny Khaldei is shown. It's one of the iconic images of World War II: Soviet soldiers hoisting a red flag on top of the Reichstag after the fall of Berlin. What most people don't realize, however, is that the photograph isn't capturing the historical moment. Yevgeni Khaldei staged the scene on May 2, 1945 — three days after the Soviets had captured the key seat of Nazi power. (AP Photo/ITAR-TASS, file)

     

6 posted on 06/15/2008 11:33:02 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

Que the Arab lady and the “Bomb Magnet”.


7 posted on 06/15/2008 11:40:57 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: realdifferent1
Isn’t the well know Iwo Jima photo also staged, or is that another rumor?

No, not staged. A small flag was raised first, and later a larger flag was carried up and raised. A photographer was present at both raisings, and a movie cameraman was also present at the second raising. As the second flag was going up the movie camera captured just some Marines struggling to get the steel pipe raised upright, and photographer Joe Rosenthal almost missed it. He saw the flag going up out of the corner of his eye and turned to snap a quick picture in the middle of it. He later transmitted his pictures stateside by shortwave radio facsimile transmission and his editors were stunned by the symbolic picture they saw. Rosenthal didn't even know what he had done at the time. It was just another combat picture out of hundreds taken.

First flag:

Second flag:


8 posted on 06/15/2008 11:41:54 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Real men drink mercury)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Delta 21

I always thought there was something funny about that picture...

9 posted on 06/15/2008 11:57:36 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: andy58-in-nh
LOL

Where's Lootie carrying off the German beer?

10 posted on 06/15/2008 12:00:16 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Real men drink mercury)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby
Oops! There's Lootie down in the corner with the beer!

Good one!

11 posted on 06/15/2008 12:01:27 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Real men drink mercury)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby
Where's Lootie carrying off the German beer?

Check the bottom right corner.

12 posted on 06/15/2008 12:04:37 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: andy58-in-nh
Lootie!!!!!!!!!

It must have been a heck of a haul carrying that beer box from New Orleans to Berlin!!!!!

13 posted on 06/15/2008 12:09:20 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: realdifferent1

“Isn’t the well know Iwo Jima photo also staged, or is that another rumor?”

Yes it was staged.

Joe Rosenthal had the men raise the pole with the flag several times before he got the shot with which he was satisfied.


14 posted on 06/15/2008 12:21:03 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Red_Devil 232

Actually, those looks like some Havana apartments in the background.

I’m not kidding.


15 posted on 06/15/2008 12:25:01 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby

“No, not staged. A small flag was raised first, and later a larger flag was carried up and raised. A photographer was present at both raisings, etc.”

I concede to your account.

Yours is correct.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 12:30:25 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Red_Devil 232

I believe this would be an “All your Reichstag are belong to us” moment.


17 posted on 06/15/2008 12:36:26 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby

The Truth About That Flag On Suribachi!
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/flagwtc.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/flagwtc.html


18 posted on 06/15/2008 12:37:55 PM PDT by gunnyg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Dumpster Baby

Wasn’t really staged, the general ordered a bigger flag, since the peak was visible from nearly every point on the island.


19 posted on 06/15/2008 12:38:20 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: andy58-in-nh
Definitely a fake, there's no tornado.


20 posted on 06/15/2008 12:50:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-49 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson