Posted on 06/15/2008 10:36:58 AM PDT by CreativePerspective
For religious conservatives at the Texas Republican Convention, even the song list at Friday's prayer rally suggested dark days ahead for the GOP.
"We're going to support McCain," he said with a distinct lack of enthusiasm. "He may not have been all of our first choice, but he is our choice."
"I'm going to support McCain and try to help people see the reality of the total picture and how dangerous Barack Obama is," said state Sen. Dan Patrick, a conservative talk-radio host with a strong evangelical following. "There is no other choice."
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You didn’t answer a specific question.
Do you or do you not want me and others like me to help McCain steal from you?
And it's obvious that you are a McCain hater who would rather have Obamanation than Mccain so let's just leave it at that.....have a nice day!
He’s repeated it enough that we can hold him to it....while there’s no way Obamanation will listen....
You obviously will not give McCain an inch....and probably will either not vote at all or vote for Bob Barr or Ron Paul....so have a nice day!
Righttttttttt! Have a nice election. You vote for who want to and I'll vote for my choice as well. I don't need your approval or advice.
McCain, Obama Differ on Approach to Judicial Nominees
By Michael Gryboski
CNSNews.com Correspondent
June 16, 2008
(CNSNews.com) - The records of Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) are very different when it comes to judges and courts.
The Republican and Democratic candidates for president are far apart when it comes to judicial philosophy and the votes they cast on major judicial nominations during the 109th and 110th Congresses.
McCain wants to appoint judges who hold a constructionist interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, according to his campaign’s Web site.
“When applying the law, the role of judges is not to impose their own view as to the best policy choices for society but to faithfully and accurately determine the policy choices already made by the people and embodied in the law,” McCain said. “The judicial role is necessarily limited and one that requires restraint and humility.”
The McCain Web site offers the promise that his “judicial appointees will understand that the federal government was intended to have limited scope, and that federal courts must respect the proper role of local and state governments.”
Obama, meanwhile, has said he wants to appoint judges who have “empathy.”
“We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom,” Obama told a Planned Parenthood conference in Washington, D.C., in 2007 “The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”
McCain supported Supreme Court nominees John G. Roberts, Jr., and Samuel Alito, Jr., to become chief justice of the United States and associate justice, respectively. McCain voted to confirm both men, whom he said were “strict constructionists.” Obama voted against both.
Obama explained his decision in speeches, which, while acknowledging the intellectual and legal qualifications of Roberts and Alito, argued that other issues had to be considered.
Speaking on the Senate floor during Alito’s confirmation hearings, Obama said: “I’ve seen an extraordinarily consistent attitude on the part of Judge Alito that does not uphold the traditional role of the Supreme Court as a bastion of equality and justice for United States citizens.”
In his speech on Roberts’ confirmation, Obama said that the Supreme Court’s role is “a check on the majoritarian impulses of the executive branch and the legislative branch.”
The two contrasting philosophies were showcased again over the controversial nomination of Judge Leslie Southwick to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
McCain voted for Southwick, speaking on behalf of the judge in a statement as “clearly qualified” who would not engage in “judicial activism.”
Obama voted against Southwick, stating that “now more than ever, we need to restore integrity and a commitment to civil rights in the courts.”
Despite holding views of the judiciary, the two presidential candidates have come together in voting in favor of several judicial nominations for lower federal courts — including those of Lisa Godbey Wood of Georgia, Philip S. Gutierrez of California, Gregory Kent Frizzell of Oklahoma and Norman “Randy” Smith of Idaho.
I’ll translate for you.
If conservatives stay home & don’t vote.....we’ll get an
OBAMANATION!
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As a true conservative, I have no intention of staying home, and as a true conservative, I will vote neither for Obama nor for MacCain.
I asked a legitimate question, and instead of an answer I get irrational emotion laden liberal sloganeering instead. Now the McCainiacs co-opt the liberal word "hater".
This is the Twilight Zone.
Seeing as how the McTards are co-opting the liberal ways, it’s just as fitting an image for the ‘nadless GOP.
“The MSM wants divide the GOP, to help the Dems, that’s why this article is presenting the Texas GOP support of McCain in such negative terms.”
Any support in Texas for McCrazie should be shunned by Texas conservatives>
Buy ammo and get ready for the excitement.
Not you again.......
I thought you’d given up debating me ?
Go on - if you think America’s gagging for a hardcore conservative, why did they do so lamentably badly in the Repub primaries - and don’t give me the bull about real conservatives not running - Tancredo and Duncan, both standard bearers, got soundly beaten by McCain.
Wake up and smell the coffee JoJo, or you’ll end up complicit in an Obama presidency.
I fail to see why my country or residence has any bearing on my argument - the last one of which you left slinking away licking your wounds rather than answer the simple question I posed to you 3 times - who do YOU want as President in November ?
Well, many of the current McCain supporters and drum beaters are those liberal to middle of the road Democrats that abandoned their sinking ship back throughout the 90's when that was the in-vogue thing to do and was besides, the only way for a Democrat to get elected anywhere thus the term RINO.
And you'll note that if they can't trick or con you into seeing politics their way they start throwing around labels and name calling and/or stomping their feet like the spoiled cry babies they are. Their favorite label to try and hang on conservatives is HATER or McCain HATER. Liberals have always liked to throw around labels when they can't win their arguments. Nothings really changed.
It's just that it takes some of them a little longer than it does others to know when to just shut up and cut their losses and move on when they lose their arguments. They know they're backing a losing horse in this race but they are bound and determined to try and make everyone else's life miserable in the process if they can if we don't agree with them.
.........oh and at least you pinged me this time, so I guess my comments about your manners last time you didn’t ping me seems to have improved them.
Well done - there’s hope for you yet JoJo.
Now that's hilarious. A limp wristed meddling foreigner that apoligizes for a Socialist fellow traveler acts like Billie Joe Badass.
you and the horse you rode in on, Red Rider.
This evangelical is not voting for an amnesty granting, gitmo closing, Ginsberg confirming, f’in liberal, no matter what party he claims to represent.
If McQueeg is a republican, than I am not a republican.
So that’s 4 times you fail to answer my question (whilst getting in a totally gratuitous slur against my country (and your closest ally in the GWOT) again).
And you’re on this thread lecturing others about them not answering YOUR questions.
LOL !!!
Limp-wristed - why am I limp-wristed - you’re the one who slunk away from our last encounter muttering something like “I don’t debate foreigners” or something equally fatuous ?
I like you JoJo, it’s fun debating you - you’re just SO predictable.......
Mug whore, sewer, Orwellian, limp-wristed, Frenchified FOREIGNER - I suggest you begin to broaden your epithets however - they are getting somewhat repetitive.
Oh yeah, they'll get in a childish hissy when you don't see things their way, and say you're the one being nasty. (Well, in my case, I do play hardball. I figure if they're going to take America to hell then I won't politely turn the other cheek). If you ask them questions concerning the long term implications of what they're doing, seems all their rote response is that you're "for "Obama. They haven't the mental capacity* to understand incrementalism, to see that the GOP will see them eating that crap sandwich, thus emboldening them to bring even more insanity into the Big Tent come 2012 and 2016 and 2020, etc. So what's for the next Election? Pandering to the perverts? Welcoming in the abortionists?
So when will NAMBLA be openly courted? Sounds insane? Did we ever think a few years ago the GOP would pander to Greenfece?
*such as my pesky little foreign gnat. :)
Polls: Sou. Baptist pastors, evangelicals back McCain (”by wide margins”)
Baptist Press ^ | Jun 16, 2008 | Michael Foust
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 5:59:32 PM by Red Steel
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)—Despite media speculation to the contrary, three new polls show that evangelicals, including Southern Baptist pastors, support Republican John McCain over Democrat Barack Obama by wide margins.
The polls were released as Obama courts Christian leaders and voters in hopes of cutting into what has traditionally been a Republican stronghold. During the Democratic primary, Obama’s campaign released a flyer in conservative Kentucky showing him at a pulpit, with a cross in the background, quoting him as saying, “I won’t be fulfilling God’s will unless I go out and do the Lord’s work.” The flyer called Obama a “committed Christian.”
But, so far, Obama’s outreach hasn’t put a significant dent in McCain’s support among evangelicals. For instance:
— 80 percent of Southern Baptist pastors plan to vote for McCain and only 1 percent for Obama, according to a poll of 778 pastors conducted by LifeWay Research in April and May. Fifteen percent were undecided.
— 78 percent of likely evangelical voters say they’ll vote for McCain, according to a survey of 1,003 adults conducted in May by The Barna Group.
— 57 percent of evangelical Protestants say they’ll vote for McCain and 25 percent for Obama, according to a poll of 3,002 adults in April and May commissioned by the Paul B. Henry Institute for the Study of Christianity and Politics at Calvin College. Additionally, 54 percent of evangelical Protestants identify themselves as Republicans — down only 2 percent from a similar poll in 2004.
The differences between the results from the Barna and Calvin College surveys could be explained by examining the respective survey’s methodology. Calvin College’s survey simply asked people if they considered themselves evangelicals; Barna’s survey used a series of detailed questions to determine if someone actually is an evangelical. Also, the Calvin College survey was conducted while Hillary Clinton was still a Democratic candidate.
In 2004, President Bush won 78 percent of the vote among white evangelicals, according to exit polls.
Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, told Baptist Press McCain’s support among Southern Baptist pastors isn’t surprising.
“My explanation of that is that I have heard variations of this theme too many times to count and the theme is, ‘I’d rather have a third-rate fireman than a first-class arsonist,’” Land said, echoing what people have told him.
Even though McCain is seen as somewhat of a maverick on some issues, he and Obama nevertheless still offer a stark contrast on what have traditionally been viewed as the leading issues for social conservatives.
Obama is pro-choice, has said he “will not yield” on the issue of abortion, opposes the ban on partial-birth abortion and has said the “first thing” he’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act, a proposed law that would codify abortion-on-demand as the law of the land and also overturn every pro-life law — such as mandatory waiting periods, parental notifications and partial-birth abortion bans — on the federal and state level. Obama has been endorsed by NARAL Pro-Choice America. McCain has a consistent pro-life record on abortion, supports the ban on partial-birth abortion and has been endorsed by National Right to Life.
On the issue of judges, Obama voted against both of President Bush’s Supreme Court nominees, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito. He also spoke last year to Planned Parenthood and underscored his commitment to making sure the Supreme Court upholds Roe v. Wade. McCain voted for Roberts and Alito and favors overturning Roe. He also has pledged to nominate justices “in the cast of” Roberts and Alito and has criticized what he calls examples of “judicial activism.”
“For decades now, some federal judges have taken it upon themselves to pronounce and rule on matters that were never intended to be heard in courts or decided by judges,” McCain said during a speech this year.
Obama is a Socialist Democrat.
McCain is also a Socialist Democrat.
Now, only a mental cripple couldn't understand that I, and people who view the world in similar fashion, who have principles and convictions, who understand that the "lesser" evil still causes the bucket to overflow given enough time, don't have anything to vote for this round that's worth a flying damn.
Please, hurry back and ask the same idiotic question anyway. Show the world your obsessive fixation with "if you're against McCain you're for Obama".
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