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Shuttle Discovery begins descent to Earth
NASA ^ | 6/14/08 | AFP

Posted on 06/14/2008 7:41:25 AM PDT by mdittmar

CAPE CANAVERAL (AFP) - The US space shuttle Discovery left orbit Saturday and began its descent towards Florida, NASA said.

Earlier, mission control gave the shuttle, which is bringing seven astronauts back to Earth, the green light to land at the Kennedy Space Center at 1515 GMT.


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KEYWORDS: nasa; shuttlediscovery; spaceshuttle
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1 posted on 06/14/2008 7:44:00 AM PDT by mdittmar
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I hope Jimmah Carter’s mandate to make it from aluminum instead of titanium isn’t lethal again.

Carter *spit* the gift that keeps on giving, and giving, and giving...


2 posted on 06/14/2008 7:47:30 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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Too bad you’re perpetuating a myth to take a cheap shot at a poor excuse for a President.

Columbia burned up due to a failure of a reinforced carbon-carbon composite sheet, not metal structure.

Also, there is a live thread on this.


3 posted on 06/14/2008 7:52:43 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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It’s sad that the return to earth of the centerpiece of our space program is now always greeted with fear.


4 posted on 06/14/2008 7:53:40 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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Better a healthy fear than blatant complacency.


5 posted on 06/14/2008 7:54:59 AM PDT by Carley
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It’s sad that the return to earth of the centerpiece of our space program is now always greeted with fear.

I don't fear it,I'm in awe of it.

It is amazing to me what we can do.

6 posted on 06/14/2008 7:58:02 AM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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And that’s part of the problem. We CAN do so much more, but we CHOOSE to spend the money or things like welfare and health care.


7 posted on 06/14/2008 7:59:21 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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Now, that’s what I call amazing...AMAZING!


8 posted on 06/14/2008 8:03:25 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: AntiKev

A titanium structure would have survived the heat of reentry with that failure of the carbon-carbon composites.

Yes, the shuttle would have been badly damaged, at a minimum, landing gear and tires would have failed on that side. But there wouldn’t have been a high altitude multi-mach burn through and total disintegration if the whole craft.

Yes, the shuttle would, at the very best, had to do a wheels up landing and been damaged beyond any hope of economic repair, but at least the crew would have had an good chance of survival.

Both shuttles died because engineering considerations were overridden by political considerations.


9 posted on 06/14/2008 8:06:38 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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To: Carley

“Better a healthy fear than blatant complacency.”

How could anyone be so jaded than to grow tired of seeing how we’ve continued to move onward and upward since NASA began 50 years ago.


10 posted on 06/14/2008 8:07:12 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: AntiKev
We CAN do so much more, but we CHOOSE to spend the money or things like welfare and health care.

Yep. Aluminum is much cheaper than titanium.

11 posted on 06/14/2008 8:07:37 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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To: mdittmar

so what time is that on the east coast so i can turn on the tv?
11:15?


12 posted on 06/14/2008 8:07:52 AM PDT by mowowie
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10 minutes to landing. Watch it live at NASA TV.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html


13 posted on 06/14/2008 8:08:04 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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RIGHT NOW!!!!


14 posted on 06/14/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of their age and stupider by its cube.)
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To: mdittmar

I fear it because it’s a machine that has been pushed well beyond it’s intended lifespan, and its age is showing.

If we are going to have a space program, we should have had a replacement for the shuttle long ago.


15 posted on 06/14/2008 8:10:51 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: null and void

You’re making a false assumption. Under perfect conditions, a shuttle orbiter with an all-titanium heat shield would survive reentry, using the proper alloy of titanium. We probably wouldn’t be having this discussion either because the foam probably wouldn’t have damaged the titanium enough to cause a wing rupture.

But, the assumption that a titanium structure would have survived long enough to make an intact touchdown is a false one. We probably would have seen an effect akin to that of the WTC on 9/11. The titanium would have softened causing the wing structure to collapse.

Challenger, you are 100% correct. NASA had “GO-fever” and didn’t listen to the contractors telling them that the shuttle was not safe to launch. And 7 crew members paid the price.

Columbia, well foam shedding was a known issue, but nobody cared enough to try to mitigate it as it wasn’t seen as a large issue. If you really want to trace it back, the change from the standard ET to the LWT and then finally the SLWT would probably be the path that I’d take. The standard ET had a coat of paint that held the foam together better. Unfortunately when you’re dealing with cryogenic fuels, the metal expands and contracts so much that if you put anything with a lower coefficient of thermal expansion over it (foam) it’s going to be difficult to keep it all in one piece.


16 posted on 06/14/2008 8:14:15 AM PDT by AntiKev ("The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena." - Carl Sagan)
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To: mdittmar

Safe landing! Amen!


17 posted on 06/14/2008 8:17:53 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: null and void

All right!!
Just in time.
Thanks.


18 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:30 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Direct TV channel 283


19 posted on 06/14/2008 8:42:54 AM PDT by Jemian (Those who don't give yellow roses are doomed to age quickly!)
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Beautiful! PTL!


20 posted on 06/14/2008 8:45:38 AM PDT by Jemian (Those who don't give yellow roses are doomed to age quickly!)
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