Obama wants payroll tax on incomes above $250,000

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama on Friday called for higher payroll taxes on wage-earners making more than $250,000 annually, a step that would affect the wealthiest 3 percent of Americans.

The presidential candidate told senior citizens in Ohio that it is unfair for middle-class earners to pay the Social Security tax "on every dime they make," while millionaires and billionaires pay it on only "a very small percentage of their income."

The 6.2 percent payroll tax is now applied to all wages up to $102,000 a year, which covers the entire amount for most Americans. Under Obama's plan, the tax would not apply to wages between that amount and $250,000. But all annual salaries above the quarter-million-dollar amount would be taxed under his plan, Obama said.

Obama also said his rival, John McCain, has indicated in the past he was willing to consider higher payroll taxes.

But Douglas Holz-Eakin, the Republican candidate's senior economic policy adviser, said that as president, McCain would not consider an increase "under any imagineable circumstance."

Obama was vague about what forms of income would be affected, saying, "We should exempt anyone making under $250,000 from this increase so that the change doesn't burden middle-class Americans." Campaign aides said the additional tax, like the current one, would apply only to wages and salaries and not to other forms of income such as investments.

Obama has talked before of establishing such a "doughnut hole" in the amount of income subject to the Social Security tax. Friday marked the first time he confirmed a resumption point: $250,000 and above.

Obama made the remarks at a retirement facility in Columbus, capital of a state he lost badly to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primary on March 4. Republican John McCain is hoping to carry Ohio this fall, as President Bush did four years ago in his narrow win over Democrat John Kerry.

Obama said his plan "allows us to extend the life of Social Security" without raising the retirement age or cutting benefits. He said McCain "a few years ago" stated that he might consider a higher cap on incomes subject to the tax, "but today he's attacking me for holding the very same position."

Obama also criticized McCain for being open to letting taxpayers invest part of their Social Security payments in private investment accounts.

"Imagine if your security now was tied up with the Dow Jones," he said, alluding to the recent slide in stock prices. "You wouldn't feel very confident about the security of your nest egg."

McCain, campaigning Friday in New Jersey, said Obama was misrepresenting his position.

"I will not privatize Social Security," he said. "But I would like for younger workers, younger workers only, to have an opportunity to take a few of their tax dollars, a few of theirs, and maybe put it into an account with their name on it. That's their money."

He told reporters later on his campaign bus: "Private savings accounts have to be voluntary, they have to be only for young people, and they can't be the centerpiece of the argument. We have to solve this problem and not worry about private savings accounts, because even though I support them, I don't think it's central to the issue. Central to the issue is that the system is going broke. Of course I'm not for privatization. But I do think young workers ought to have some options."

The total Social Security tax rate of 12.4 percent is evenly divided between workers and their employers.

Obama, speaking on other retirement issues, said he would "limit circumstances when retirement benefits can be cut," and increase the wages and benefits workers could protect in bankruptcy court. Companies would have to disclose more about their pension fund investments, he said. He vowed to end "the outrage of executives getting bonuses while workers watch pensions disappear."

“And if you are self employed, you pay the full 12.4 percent.”
Yes, yes, yes.

Add in Medicare, etc. and you are responsible for 15.8%. Almost 16%.

So someone who is self employed and earns $300,000 per year is looking at a tax increase of $32,000 ($200,000 in earnings over the previous $102,000 cap).

This is an overall tax increase of almost 11% on some of our most productive tax payers.

There goes that new car or refurbished kitchen. Outcome: layoff an autoworker or have a contractor go out of business...

These folks are FOOLS!!! “

That would be me.

"Add in Medicare, etc. and you are responsible for 15.8%. Almost 16%."

I have already done the math like you. I am self employed and own my own business (medical). My partner and I were discussing this yesterday. This means we will be paying over 50% federal taxes since we are evil and fall in the top 35% marginal rate for taxes ( 16% plus 35%). We are already trying to decide at what point it is no longer profitable to work and how many days a week we will stop coming to the office. 50% confiscation is that point for me. Being a military officer for most of my previous life I can sure get by on a whole lot less than I am making now. By the time I pay overhead and taxes I am working for 20 cents on the dollar and risking being sued. This means we start laying off employees, decreasing our supplies, and other expense reductions. Funny how you start understanding the results of a confiscatory tax on the economy when you live it out.

I'm sure Bill Gates worked for a paycheck at some point in his life, like before MS went public? And if I've paid something into the government and they say I can have it back, I'm taking it! Everyone should do that. That was my only point.
I've read more where the anointed one (should that be capitalized? - LOL) actually wants to drop the SS tax from people who earn less than, what, $102,000/yr. Now THAT would be government largesse!

“Besides, where in the world would we go? (to be honest, I’ve been seriously considering Italy).”

I’m surprised you would consider abandoning America just when she needs you the most.

"I’m surprised you would consider abandoning America just when she needs you the most."

Like there's a whole lot I can do.

Heck, I'm 36 and still single - too many liberal woman in this country who think they need a man like a fish needs a bicycle. And I'm not bad looking or anything, I think...

Just imagine what things will be like when we become a socialist nation - really, I just want to be able to pursue my own happiness in peace - without the likes of Kode Pink in my face!

However, I do get your point and agree.

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