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George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 6/13/08 | Malcom Moore

Posted on 06/13/2008 6:38:38 AM PDT by camerakid400

George W Bush and Pope Benedict XVI have held an intimate meeting in Rome as rumours mounted in Italy that the president may follow in Tony Blair's footsteps and convert to Catholicism.

The two men spoke for half an hour in the 12th century Tower of St John, a private area in the Vatican gardens which is used by the pope for private reflection.

The usual protocol for heads-of-state is a meeting in the pope's library in the Apostolic Palace, but a spokesman for the Vatican said Benedict wanted to reward Mr Bush for the "warmth" of his reception at the White House earlier this year.

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To: STARWISE

Lovely post, Starwise! Fr. Morris told the Friends about this today...he was sooooooooooooooo excited. I do hope it’s true.


81 posted on 06/13/2008 9:33:52 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ElkGroveDan
...and is that meant as a kind word to Catholics?

If I was fleeing a mainstream apostate church, Catholicism wouldn't be my first choice, simply because in postmodern America, churches with a structured hierarchy seem to be very susceptible to rot that starts from the top. Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians, most Lutherans, etc. have all succumbed.

Vatican II was a very near miss for Catholics, worldwide, and did plenty of damage in the USA, even as a standalone event.

I'm quite fond of Catholics - I just don't want to be one bad Pope away from having a gay guy giving me communion.
82 posted on 06/13/2008 9:36:08 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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To: camerakid400

It’s certainly possible, but this article gives no particular reason in support of the idea.

Bush and Blair are two very different kettles of fish. Blair’s conversion was rumored for years. And his wife was already a Catholic. But, strangely, Blair supports abortion and homosexual activism, most unusual in a convert to the Church, since as the saying goes, converts are usually more Catholic than the Pope. Blair is apparently a cafeteria Catholic, and what his reasons were for converting are hard to say.

Bush is genuinely pro-life. I think it’s fair to say that he seems to have the Evangelical spirit, as well, and that his conversion experience was a turning from his drinking problem, among other things. The question I’ve always had with that is how you can be an Evangelical and square that with the very liberal doings of today’s Methodist church. You would need an unusual pastor and an unusual congregation, and I think such are becoming increasingly rarer in Methodist circles.

So, I don’t think the comparison to Blair makes much sense. Blair was Bush’s uncomfortable partner in the Iraq war, but otherwise was always more at home with his old friend Bill Clinton. Bush I think is, or tries to be, a real Christian of the old school.


83 posted on 06/13/2008 9:37:13 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pissant

Jeb’s a Catholic


84 posted on 06/13/2008 9:40:56 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: horse_doc
anything is better than the squishy brand of Methodism that has shaped his Presidency

The Catholic Church is not altogether devoid of squishiness either! E.g., regarding capital punishment and illegal immigration.

85 posted on 06/13/2008 9:44:29 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: camerakid400

Reading the headline I began to wonder how hard a time Bush was going to have since his powers of persuasion have fallen to an all-time low but then I realized it was Bush himself who was still in a state of self-adjustment and not the infallible one...


86 posted on 06/13/2008 9:47:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: sandyeggo

Some interesting names on the list of Catholic converts:
John Wayne, Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman, and Bob Hope.


87 posted on 06/13/2008 9:51:37 AM PDT by dangus
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To: STARWISE

Absolutely fabulous post, Starwise. Just wonderful.


88 posted on 06/13/2008 10:14:31 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: camerakid400; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; metmom
It's a little eerie hearing this, for a couple of months ago I mentioned to my husband that I had a hunch George Bush would follow his brother, Jeb, and friend, Tony Blair, in converting to the Roman Catholic faith. We'll just have to wait and see whether this is so or not; in any case, I doubt he would do this while still in office. I wonder what Laura Bush thinks about all this....

Thanks for the post, camerakid400!

89 posted on 06/13/2008 10:26:07 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: tiredoflaundry

LOL

(((tol)))

I would think that the President would want a library in Texas. Do you think that he might talk to a Catholic college or university?


90 posted on 06/13/2008 10:39:50 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: STARWISE

Thank you, STARWISE!

What a lovely post!

Cheers,

sl


91 posted on 06/13/2008 10:40:53 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: ConservativeMind

It is if he doesnt know the Bible.


92 posted on 06/13/2008 10:47:31 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: betty boop

How interesting! Thank you for the ping, dearest sister in Christ!


93 posted on 06/13/2008 10:52:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ConservativeMind

“this is not likely”

He’s already reserved a place. Within 3 months of leaving office.


94 posted on 06/13/2008 10:58:42 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Cicero; sandyeggo; NYer; dangus
Bush I think is, or tries to be, a real Christian of the old school.

Let's see...a man who is despised and vilified by the liberal "secular" elites because of the stands he has taken on morality and the unborn that are based on natural law. Also, believes deeply in Jesus Christ as his Savior, and is not ashamed to pray at any moment. He thanks God for his victory over alcoholism. He has surrounded himself in the White House with a bunch of Catholic advisers, and has named two men to the Supreme Court who are Catholic.

Sounds like he'd make a very good Papist to me, but what do I know?

95 posted on 06/13/2008 11:13:52 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: saveliberty

((((((((sl)))))))))

The President might!!


96 posted on 06/13/2008 11:16:13 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (High Maintenance Estrogen Bot........... look out :0))
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To: nd76

Thanks, I had never heard of that.


97 posted on 06/13/2008 11:18:05 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Coleus

Who is John Ellis?


98 posted on 06/13/2008 11:20:09 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Coleus

Nevermind, I never realized Jeb was a nickname.


99 posted on 06/13/2008 11:21:53 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: xzins

Hi, xzins. Could it be because many Methodists have liberal leanings?


100 posted on 06/13/2008 11:21:59 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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