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Beware of FLDS enforcers, Texas told
Deseret News ^ | June 11, 2008 | Leigh Dethman

Posted on 06/11/2008 4:59:10 AM PDT by Flo Nightengale

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1 posted on 06/11/2008 4:59:11 AM PDT by Flo Nightengale
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To: Flo Nightengale
FLDS "enforcers,"

Enforcers? hahahahahaha! Barbara and the crew must be really going off the deep end of self-righteous liberal "victimhood."

2 posted on 06/11/2008 5:08:25 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Flo Nightengale
After reading this, I had to check again that it wasn't a parody.

Other FLDS members showed up on the dossiers for a variety of things, from staring down and intimidating witnesses, being an active member of Warren Jeffs' security team, or holding a high rank in the FLDS Church's hierarchy.

Actually, I agree that people who aren't in the trial, and who "stare down the witnesses", should be removed from the court. Observers are not in court to effect the outcome, but simply to observe and report on the proceedings.

But to go from giving the witnesses evil glances to being listed as dangerous is quite a leap.

I think providing Texas a list of people was also a good thing, so they could be on the lookout. But the way they are described here, if it was done by a private citizen, would probably be considered slander.

And given the description, if one of these people had been pulled over on a traffic stop, it could have led to a violent encounter simply because the police were ready.

Also points against authority for the fact that the seizure was April 4, and the list of "dangerous people" wasn't given to Texas until two months later. If they really WERE dangerous that was far too long -- but the delay helps show that the list may be overblown, as there is no evidence that anybody acted wrong in those 2 months.

Or, as the article says, that any of these people have ever acted in the manner described, OTHER than "staring down" witnesses in the courtroom.

Could they be dangerous? Sure -- everybody could be dangerous. Do we put people on lists of "dangerous" people based on their religion or cult status, absent actual incidents of violence? Apparently so.

I know this -- when one or two of the pro-Life demonstrators stepped over the line and were arrested and jailed, I did not appreciate that ALL pro-lifers were smeared with being dangerous simply because we had a common goal.

3 posted on 06/11/2008 5:10:58 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Flo Nightengale

—they better watch out for the ghost of Orrin Porter Rockwell-—


4 posted on 06/11/2008 5:12:35 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Flo Nightengale

“There are many individuals who are willing to give up their life for the cause and you can never underestimate what a government fanatic is capable of,”


5 posted on 06/11/2008 5:13:47 AM PDT by an amused spectator (corruptissima republica, plurimae leges)
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To: greyfoxx39

Modern day Danites ping


6 posted on 06/11/2008 5:14:31 AM PDT by rightazrain (:No people . . .have ever survived . . . by (being) inoffensive to their enemies." Dean Acheson)
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To: rellimpank
Ghost? Didn't you know...he never died, that was all a conspiracy. He's out there, somewhere, still. I am surprised they did not put him, or one of his descendants, on the list.

[/sarcasm]

7 posted on 06/11/2008 5:14:59 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Flo Nightengale

These people are truly not going to be happy until they get to shoot somebody. They must have been promised some fun before they went in to the ranch and got foiled when the FLDSers just said “Yes sir” and “Right away sir” and they didn’t get the required flimsy excuse to shoot.


8 posted on 06/11/2008 5:16:37 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Flo Nightengale

Makes one wonder who burned the Governor’s mansion.


9 posted on 06/11/2008 5:16:42 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Colofornian; colorcountry; MizSterious; metmom; Tennessee Nana

Folks, it looks like the Danites are out in El Dorado, and the judge is the target!


10 posted on 06/11/2008 5:17:54 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: wolfcreek

BINGO!


11 posted on 06/11/2008 5:19:50 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Flo Nightengale

The FLDS has discovered that today’s enforcers are lawyers, not gunmen.

So let’s see, that’s illegal arrest, unlawful imprisonment, policy brutality....and libel!


12 posted on 06/11/2008 5:23:48 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: arthurus
These people are truly not going to be happy until they get to shoot somebody.

Sure, and then it will get REALLY ugly.

13 posted on 06/11/2008 5:29:24 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; All

Let me take it a step further.

Perry talks smack about FLDS.

Perry and wife head to Europe.

Mansion set afire while guarded by Texas DPS officers.

State finds out FLDS member(s) might be involved.

New reason to raid compound.


14 posted on 06/11/2008 5:30:44 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: arthurus

See #14


15 posted on 06/11/2008 5:32:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; ...
Notice the similarity of this crazy cult as some freepers.

Gestapo? Where have we heard that before?

16 posted on 06/11/2008 5:36:30 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle

I think we have some “Danites,” or avenging angels right here on FR.

That’s what I think!


17 posted on 06/11/2008 5:38:51 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TLI

LOL no evidence of any danger but they must be dangerous because the “authorities” are calling them “enforcers”.


18 posted on 06/11/2008 5:44:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: colorcountry

First Gov. Boggs, now Gov. Perry.

The tradition continues...


19 posted on 06/11/2008 5:46:31 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: rightazrain

Danites

exactly


20 posted on 06/11/2008 5:46:53 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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