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McCain Rebuffs Billy Gramam
newsmax.com ^ | 06/08/2008 | Doug Wead

Posted on 06/09/2008 10:02:31 PM PDT by llandres

McCain Campaign Declines to Meet with Billy Graham Sunday, June 8, 2008 10:10 PM By: Doug Wead For almost six decades, Billy Graham has been America’s most influential preacher and evangelist, a man sought out by every president since Harry Truman. Editor's Note: After this report was published the McCain campaign clarified its position about a meeting with Dr. Billy Graham. Read the clarification — Click Here Now. In another disturbing sign that Sen. John McCain has little interest in reaching out to his conservative base, including evangelical Christian voters, his campaign has declined an offer to meet with the Rev. Billy Graham. For almost six decades, Graham has been America’s most influential preacher and evangelist, a man sought out by every president since Harry Truman.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; billygraham; christianvote; mccain; snub
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

thanks, I can depend on you to clean things up!


41 posted on 06/09/2008 11:10:18 PM PDT by malia (God Bless America, President Bush and our Troops & their families .)
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To: Ron H.
To blame this screw up on a scheduling conflict is about as lame as it comes across as sounding. That may sound plausible to the uninitiated but to those who have been around the block at least once knows better considering his dismal record on the conservatives to date.

Way to go, Lad! Don't let the fact that Rev Graham's people and McCain's people deny the NewsSchmucks story stand in the way of your irrational hatred. If the lie sounds better, believe the lie, just like the Jihadis do.

42 posted on 06/09/2008 11:12:39 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: malia

Thank you, that’s one of the nicest compliments I’ve ever been paid here at FR!


43 posted on 06/09/2008 11:16:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: pawdoggie
When I come across morons not unlike yourself "pard" who are quick to throw around the "hate" label so easily and loosely when someone takes issue with your own beliefs then that tells me more about you than it reveals about myself. The source you people are using as a source to discredit this articles author is at least as unreliable as the one you claim here. The Catholic Online is a notoriously unreliable source for truthfull information unless you are already bent that way politically.

So if this is the best you can come up with then you ought to just move alone and mind your own business "pard LOL. You bring shame to your side here.

44 posted on 06/09/2008 11:28:07 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: Irish Eyes

See post #44. So much for your source.


45 posted on 06/09/2008 11:30:08 PM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: singfreedom
Senator McCain has proved himself completely capable of defeating himself in November. If this is an indication of how adept his “handlers” are, he needs to start shopping for some new ones-—yesterday.

It's more of an indication at how gullible some sheeple are in believing any story coming from the media without doing any cross check -

46 posted on 06/09/2008 11:42:32 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: llandres
John McCain is running his campaign like he wants to lose the election. I remember 96. No one much cared it was Bob Dole's turn at the wheel. People don't seem excited either about McCain.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

47 posted on 06/09/2008 11:58:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: maine-iac7

I’ll remember that.


48 posted on 06/10/2008 12:09:00 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: llandres
This story is being reported as bogus:

McCain’s Graham Flap is False

49 posted on 06/10/2008 1:17:23 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: llandres

THIS IS PURE GARBAGE!

Larry Ross, director of Media and PR for the Graham Association told Mother Jones, “It would be highly unusual and out of character for Mr. Graham to initiate such a meeting, and there has been no contact between the McCain campaign and his office.

“In fact, Mr. Graham has not met or been in contact with any candidates during the current primary process. If he had, it has been his personal policy through the years to avoid partisanship by meeting with representatives from both parties to address spiritual concerns.

“Upon further inquiry I understand that two people unaffiliated with either Billy or Franklin Graham apparently independently, without any knowledge by the [Billy Graham Evangelistic Association], tried to broker a meeting between Mr. McCain and the evangelist. Apparently it was their indirect and unofficial involvement that was declined.”


50 posted on 06/10/2008 2:22:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: txrangerette
Rush talked about Mr. McCain and Mr. Graham? He was unhappy that Mr. McCain wouldn't go to where Mr. Graham is? Is that the picture? I'm in China, and I can't always get Rush's broadcast (I can on the Internet — WABC NYC — but have to stay up all night to do it).

Why would Rush care much about this? He doesn't seem like a man interested in spiritual things (my observation only).

51 posted on 06/10/2008 2:35:24 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

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52 posted on 06/10/2008 3:20:39 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: llandres

The entire story has been denied by both MCCain and the Graham people.


53 posted on 06/10/2008 3:43:28 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Ron H.

The denial has come from the McCain campaign as well as the Graham people. What makes you the judge of whose telling the truth? Being a McCain hater doesn’t give you any special standing.


54 posted on 06/10/2008 3:47:26 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: John Leland 1789

Rush was putting this into context of what has made this a different coubtry than it was not all that long ago, and the changes have been for the worse.

When he was young, for instance, if a “pastor” of a church said “God Damn America” and other such from the pulpit he wouldn’t have a church anymore, much less would one of his attending parishioners be nominated for President and be leading in most polls, nor would any excuses be given for Wright and Obama as now.

Another example was when John Glenn was sent into orbit Americans nearby to watch it were literally kneeling in prayer on the beach prior to liftoff. He said that doesn’t happen anymore.

And he asked when can you remember a Presidential candidate who declined to meet with Billy Graham. Then said, MCCAIN has declined. So apparently he thought that the lack of meeting was McCain’s fault.

And he thought these and many other things he mentioned were signs that this is a vastly changed America for the worse, for which he blamed the Republican Party MORE, simply because it refuses to stand up now and kowtows to the Left, the more anti American anti Christianity side.

Rush was brought up in the Methodist church in Cape Girardeau MO, and it was a small town, flyover country type according to him and not the modern type. Apparently his parents and grandparents were pretty religious and they also tied their religion to their patriotism, which is how many of the rest of us of Rush’s generation were raised by such parents.

Rush is versed in religion but doesn’t like to talk about it in anything but the most general, pro American sense such as the views of the founding fathers, because he doesn’t want his program to descend into arguments over faith. I have heard him express that several times.

But yesterday, and for days to come, he’s going into thoughtful rants about what has happened to this country and what needs to be done about it, and he included the McCain thing as one of many examples.

And I will ask this: to those who think of this as a scheduling problem and no matter WHO says it is: Surely you realize that Mr. Graham is very vulnerable to illness and death, given his age and health issues.

My elderly mother passed away on May 20 after a relatively short, intense illness that started out as something more mild and not clearly dangerous until it had weakened her to where when a crisis came (pneumonia) she couldn’t overcome it.

Does McCain want to jimmy around with the visit until he’s hurrying to visit Graham in the hospital or at home on his virtual deathbed?? I think Rush sees this delay and scheduling issue as just not a sound reason to wrap his arms around, when you consider it’s Billy Graham and in such frail condition as he is.

And that makes sense to me.


55 posted on 06/10/2008 5:06:22 AM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: llandres

I fail to see why McCain owes jack-squat to Rev. Graham. If the schedule doesn’t work, too bad. McCain is running to be President, not pastor. This pandering to the Religious Right is offensive to both Religion and the Right.


56 posted on 06/10/2008 5:10:14 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: AmericaUnited

I read what you’ve posted and I have a question: What kind of idiots would try to broker a meeting beween McCain and Billy Graham who had no connection whatsoever to either McCain or Graham and without the knowledge of either?

Read that again, AU. Please.

They’re trying to broker a meeting when they don’t know McCain, don’t know Graham, and neither party even knew they were doing it.

DUH.

Ok, I’m not saying this issued statement is false, I’m just saying this sounds looney tunes crazy.


57 posted on 06/10/2008 5:15:51 AM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: txrangerette

People do all kind of crazy things all the time. The only thing shocking is that that seems to be “new” to you.


58 posted on 06/10/2008 5:19:24 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: txrangerette

Thank you for that review of the context of Rush’s statements about Mr. McCain and Mr. Graham. Sincerely appreciated. And by your review, I can appreciate deeply his overall intention.

I’m not a great Rush fan. He takes some liberties with reference to the Divine that irk me. But I am not a Rush basher either, believe me.


59 posted on 06/10/2008 5:19:33 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: jude24

Who said he “owed” him?

In the past when politicians met with Billy Graham I never thought it was because they felt they “owed” it to him. I thought both the politician and Graham had their own reasons for it and neither them nor Graham felt forced or coerced into doing it.

So now, if McCain and Graham were to meet, the idea that it was because anybody owed anybody wouldn’t have arisen.


60 posted on 06/10/2008 5:22:42 AM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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