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Additional notes: Saturn is currently about 900 million miles from Earth. Mars is approximately 170 million. Back in December, 2007, we got as close as 55 million miles from Mars. Every 26-27 months, Earth catches up to Mars along its 'inner track' (we're in lane 3, Mars in lane 4) and we have what's called a 'close approach'. In August, 2003, Earth came to within ~34 million miles of Mars, closer than in many thousands of years. The reason we're not at the same identical distance from Mars at every close approach is that our two orbits are not perfectly circular but rather elliptical. And so it depends on our planets' positions along their paths at the time of the close approach.

Regarding a popular internet story about Mars which seems to circulate every August: don't believe it. The story is based on the 2003 close approach described above. ie, we get close to Mars every 26 months, not every August. The story also claims that Mars will get as big as the full moon at that time (ridiculous, of course). Mars, at its brightest, is a little brighter than the brightest stars in the sky, is not much bigger than the brighter stars, and is slightly orange in color (as are some stars).-ETL

BONUS! The International Space Station, with Shuttle attached, will pass over parts of the United States tonight. Check with the website, heavens-above.com, for the necessary details. The track below is centered on my New York City location. Times are in eastern daylight.

To see if the pair will in fact pass and be visible over your particular location,
schedules and other important information are available from the website just below (heavens-above.com):
http://www.heavens-above.com/

Important note for first time Space Station observers:
Unless the Station is scheduled to pass 20 or more (depending on your viewing location--obstructions, etc) degrees above the horizon, you may not see it at all. But if the pass IS high enough above your local horizon, it will 'look' like a very bright white star, w/ no blinking or colored lights whatsoever, moving at a steady rate of speed (about the apparent rate of a high-flying airplane) In reality, the ISS is actually travelling about 4-1/2 miles per second). Also, it will NOT be visible right at the time the schedule indicates it will first appear or 'start', so give it a minute or so. Finally, they list the "magnitude". This is simply the brightness of the pass. Due to some old rules which were never updated, the LOWER the number for magnitude, the BRIGHTER an object is. ie, negative magnitudes are very bright. When Venus is at her spectacular brightest, she's about a mag minus 4.7 --ETL.

Here is a link to an animated cloud map for the U.S. from the Weather Channel website, because if it's too cloudy you won't of course see anything:
http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteusnational/index_large_animated.html

"The International Space Station (ISS) is a research facility currently being assembled in space.
The on-orbit assembly of ISS began in 1998. The space station is in a low Earth orbit and can be seen from Earth with the naked eye:
it has an altitude of approximately 350 km (217 mi)[1] above the surface of the Earth, and travels at an average speed of 27,700 km
(17,210 statute miles) per hour [roughly 4.5 miles per second!], completing 15.77 orbits per day."[it takes the ISS about 90 min to go once around the Earth]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station

How big is the International Space Station?
"The complete ISS will be over 100meters [~300 feet] long and more than 70meters [~210 feet] wide.
For comparison, the space shuttles are about 38meters [~100 feet] long.
A shuttle would stretch from home plate to second base on a baseball diamond
and the Space Station would reach from home plate all the way to the outfield walls.
The inside of the Station, when complete, will have a volume roughly equal to that of three jumbo jets.
The Space Station pieces will be launched into orbit over the course of more than 40 missions,
during which they will be assembled like a giant LEGO space project."
http://tinyurl.com/3mw7x4

"I took these pictures during the early morning hours of May 12th using a 5-inch refractor." says amateur astronomer Dirk Ewers of Hofgeismar, Germany.
For five minutes, he tracked the ISS across the sky and his *MOVIE* of the entire 75 [degree] transit is a must see!"

NASA-International Space Station (official website):
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/main/

1 posted on 06/08/2008 7:45:22 AM PDT by ETL
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To: ETL
Thanks for the post. Saw the Space Shuttle/Station last year here in Nevada. Funny that it was almost like a Star Trek event! By that, I mean that we only got to see it for what was about 20 seconds, and that it was only visible for a short time (looked like about two foot of travel across the sky, rather than from one horizon to the other). Kind of a little shimmer, appeared, traveled,shimmered again and gone! I would suspect it won't be too much different in other places.

Maybe I'll take my little Saturn (GM product) out for a look see tonight. At Saturn and Mars that is!
2 posted on 06/08/2008 7:58:01 AM PDT by Issaquahking ("What did you do for America today?")
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To: ETL
thanks, Binocs...ready.
3 posted on 06/08/2008 7:58:43 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: ETL

bump for tonight


4 posted on 06/08/2008 8:01:26 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: ETL

Cool! We’ll have to take the telescope out.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 8:08:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Heartless butcher of shrubbery.)
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To: ETL; Tax-chick

Took a picture of the moon & redwoods last nite

8 posted on 06/08/2008 8:26:38 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ETL
Will the gray’s take the opportunity to invade tonight?
9 posted on 06/08/2008 8:30:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: ETL

Never miss a chance to run outside and watch a shuttle pass. I remember a couple of years ago, think it was STS115, we had a dinner party out on the patio and I announced to everyone where and when to look. Full daylight pass straight over head, very bright. Everyone was very impressed and are shuttle watchers to this day.


10 posted on 06/08/2008 8:33:05 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (I'm beginning to realize I don't realize what I'm saying.)
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To: ETL

...thanks ETL..we’ll be out in the front yard tonight....there is no light pollution where we live and viewing conditions should be good.


11 posted on 06/08/2008 8:34:15 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: ETL

I appreciate these astro threads this time of the year since the stars are gone and won’t be back until the first of August, so anything could be going on out there and we wouldn’t know.


12 posted on 06/08/2008 8:36:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: Cailleach; kalee

PING
space! The pricess is excited. Wishes we were in the line to see the space station as well. Y’all are though.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 8:38:18 AM PDT by Cailleach
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To: ETL

“The orangey color is simply the result of Mars’ iron-bearing rocky surface turning rusty.”

Turning rusty requires free oxygen. On Earth all of our iron was quite happy to be dissolved in the oceans until those nasty living things figured out photosynthesis, and started dumping waste oxygen into the air.

It was Earth’s first real environmental catastrophe...


15 posted on 06/08/2008 8:39:30 AM PDT by null and void (Bureaucracies are stupid. They grow larger by the square of the population and stupider by its cube.)
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To: ETL
Here's a shot I took in February, in Orlando, which I really like.


24 posted on 06/08/2008 9:18:24 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: ETL
From last July...

(click pic for fullsize 2.7MB)
Click pic for fullsize. 2.7MB
33 posted on 06/08/2008 10:27:50 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (I'm beginning to realize I don't realize what I'm saying.)
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To: ETL

Thanks for posting! Got pictures of everything: Saturn, Mars, the moon, and ISS.


37 posted on 06/08/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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