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Are Conservatives Dead or Resting?
American Thinker ^ | June 08, 2008 | Christopher Chantrill

Posted on 06/08/2008 6:37:34 AM PDT by vietvet67

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To: TLI

Seems to me that Thompson never really intended to get elected.


21 posted on 06/08/2008 6:59:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: Arkinsaw

Sadly, it will take years of painful economic distress and ridiculous taxation for the American public to realize they have been lied to and are brain-dead for believing it in the first place.

That is, if they ever do........


22 posted on 06/08/2008 7:01:57 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Perdogg
It all depends on the definition of "conservative". I consider myself a conservative, but I am more of a conservatarian. This means I am conservative on law and order - national security, but a social libertarian. The modern conservative movement has been split by some social conservatives who want to establish a theocracy, or big govt social conservatism, and those who believe in Federalism. The American public will not tolerate any one wanting to establish a theocracy.

There are thinking conservatives, and a new breed of dogmatic conservatives.

I am fiscally conservative, and national security conservative, and states rights conservative, and limited government conservative, but libertarian when it comes to individual rights.
23 posted on 06/08/2008 7:02:10 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Perdogg

First off, social liberalism (”social libertarian”) ensures the survival of big government. The government grows when people cannot repress their own desire to sin, either through force of character or religious faith. Libertarians ignore the fact that social liberalism helps feed the very government they claim to oppose.

Secondly, the “theocracy” argument sounds like something from the left, not the right. Although there may be some conservatives who favor a theocracy, they are certainly a small minority—that is, unless you are calling any public expression of faith a theocracy.


24 posted on 06/08/2008 7:02:14 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Republican Who Will NOT Vote McCain!)
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Nixon was a liberal. It was his administration that brought in the EPA, Affirmative Action and wage and price controls.
25 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:29 AM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: vietvet67

Dead - just like Fred.

Just think - we coulda had Mitt - but noooooooo, wasted days and wasted nights waiting for another Ronny.

It’s true, you get the govt you deserve.


26 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:56 AM PDT by baclava
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To: vietvet67

Dead - just like Fred.

Just think - we coulda had Mitt - but noooooooo, wasted days and wasted nights waiting for another Ronny.

It’s true, you get the govt you deserve.


27 posted on 06/08/2008 7:03:57 AM PDT by baclava
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To: vietvet67

Conservatives don’t have a dog in this fight.


28 posted on 06/08/2008 7:05:28 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: weegee
Anyone who tells you politics in America wasn't a full contact sport from day one is ignorant or deliberately being miss leading. Period.
29 posted on 06/08/2008 7:05:33 AM PDT by Red Dog #1 (Up is down and down is up...)
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To: vietvet67

conservatives may revitalize about 2017.


30 posted on 06/08/2008 7:06:21 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Why do you think the other word for them is LIBERALterian?


31 posted on 06/08/2008 7:07:32 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: vietvet67

32 posted on 06/08/2008 7:08:50 AM PDT by Popman
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To: ex-snook

And for the last 20 years, “No fight in this dog”!


33 posted on 06/08/2008 7:10:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: freedomfiter2

Wasn’t it Huckabee who said that he wanted to make “God’s law” our law?


34 posted on 06/08/2008 7:10:42 AM PDT by Perdogg (McCain for President, 2008)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Sadly, it will take years of painful economic distress and ridiculous taxation for the American public to realize they have been lied to and are brain-dead for believing it in the first place.

That is, if they ever do........


The reason the American people admire Reagan so much was not because of his folksy style or his pleasant demeanor as the press likes to say. It was because he promised things, and he carried those promises through, and he did not abandon his philosophy when it came time to actually put it into practice even if it was hard. That is why he is a hero and a success.

I think Gingrich intended to do the same thing, and the American people gave him a chance, and the rest of the Republican Party, unlike Reagan, got scared when the opposition whined. Gingrich had the rug pulled out from under him and ended up collapsing into irrelevance. What little he was able to accomplish, Clinton ended up taking credit for.

The American people gave Republicans the chance after 40 years and we blew it.
35 posted on 06/08/2008 7:11:33 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: cripplecreek
Seems to me that Thompson never really intended to get elected.

Fred is a pretty savvy guy. I believe he saw they way he was being ghosted in the media vs. the way Juan MxCain was being butt-smooched and figured out early in the race the media was going to bury him anyway so he stopped while he was ahead.

36 posted on 06/08/2008 7:12:34 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Perdogg

And Huckabee is a Moderate Populist shmuck.


37 posted on 06/08/2008 7:13:00 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Conservatives have never been able to raise enough ‘free speech’. The misnamed moniker for money rules.
38 posted on 06/08/2008 7:13:03 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: CitizenUSA

The distinction I make between social liberalism and social libertarian, is “If you break it, you bought it”. I do not believe the Govt should be there to pick up people after they have screwed up their own life. Therefore, my beliefs cannot be characterize as “liberalism”.


39 posted on 06/08/2008 7:13:54 AM PDT by Perdogg (McCain for President, 2008)
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To: Arkinsaw

Gingrich also had too much spineless RINO opposition in the Senate with Lott, Graham, McCain and Frist.

The House would pass it, the Senate would stop it. (Impeachment) Or they would vote for the largest tax increase in the history of the nation.


40 posted on 06/08/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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