Posted on 06/07/2008 9:55:32 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
Just as an aside here, I have heard many people oppose the “winner-takes-all” format of the EC. That is not carved in Constitutional stone. Maine awards EC votes proportionally, only state I’m sure of. Colorado had the idea on the ballot, 06 I think, was defeated there.
If you think proportional award is more democratic, take the notion to your democratically elected state Reps. and Senators.
Nelson’s seat should have been a Republican pickup in 2006. Unfortunately the state and national party failed to support the candidate, Harris due to her unpopularity with the mainstream press. Plus she was a poor candidate anyway.
Had the party run a strong conservative instead of Harris, and provided strong financial support, Nelson would be sitting at home today. Elections do matter.
Anchor babies aren’t carved in Constitutional stone either. Get rid of the 14th Amendment rulings that allow illegal aliens to drop anchor babies here
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) would like to abolish the Electoral College. This of course would require an amendment to the Constitution, a process which our Founding Fathers wisely made difficult. If they had not invented the Electoral system, a candidate could ignore the views of millions of voters in smaller states. He could campaign almost exclusively in the big states and major cities, and get elected. Voters who are residents of states such as Hawaii, Alaska, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Delaware, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire would be completely disenfranchised. If this were to happen, we would no longer have a republic of 50 sovereign states. We would have mob rule, aka “democracy” in the style of the bloody French revolution.
Bill Nelson: Yet another reason why the 17th Amendment should be repealed.
If the democrats and McCain truly wanted campaign finance reform, they would get rid of the two early 20th century “progressive” Constitutional amendments: direct elections of senators; income tax.
Instead they would rather take away the citizens free speech rights.
Part of the beauty of the electoral college is there is no real problem with counting the vote (despite what the dims claim about 2000) It’s much easier to count 535 votes accurately than 125 million votes. What happens if no person wins a majority of the popular vote (e.g. Bill Clinton 1992,1996) does the Congress then get to decide like they do now?
It take some arrogance to believe you are wise than Hamilton or Madison in political matter.
That’s exactly right. Harris could have beat Nelson if she had received support from the state Republican party, governor Jeb Bush, and president George W. But she was abandoned by them.
Then there is Mel Martinez (RINO-FL), who opposes drilling offshore and in Alaska. He is a Democrat poorly disguised as a Republican. He said he would consider or study Nelson’s proposal for a Constitutional amendment to end the Electoral system! He probably has no clue why our Founding Fathers devised the Electoral system. As a Reagan Republican in Florida, I do not have a US senator who represents me ...... just one Demo-Socialist and one RINO.
Fool proof national voter ID cards would also have to be part of the equation. Voting methods would also have to be standardized.
It really is amazing how stupid nelson is, but then again democrats are stupid people so ...
As Franklyn said This is a republic if you choose to keep it that way, (paraphrase), apparently some wish to destroy that..
Yeah; the majority of the 30 million illegals who vote (D) for “Los Freebies” are counting on it!
Under the Colorado system, electors would have been awarded in proportion to the popular vote. Says the Republican candidate carried the state by a 55-45% margin, they would get 5 of the 9 electors and the Democrats would get the other 4. This would have been enough to reverse the results of the 2000 election.
Under the Maine system, which is also followed by Nebraska, the winner of each congressional district gets one vote. The winner of the state gets two. This is actually a fairly sensible system and if adopted in a state like Pennsylvania, the Philadelphia fraud machine would be able to put only two electoral votes into play rather than the entire state. Republicans could probably pick up 20 or so electoral votes in California and Democrats would have to counter by picking off electoral votes in states like Texas, North Carolina and Tennessee. This would mean they could no longer afford to nominate candidates from the far left and expect to be competitive.
Um - - - I wouldn’t monkey with the Constitution. Those guys who founded this country had, I think, the wisdom of God on loan. That’s why we’ve had it so good for more than two centuries.
Nope. Leave things the way they are.
Put in a Constitutional amendment.
Let’s get rid of the Senate while we’re at it. After all, it is far more undemocratic than the Electoral College
Nelson is a total moron.
This is the same guy who spoke during the Senate and told them about his “having intercourse with our troops”...it was hilarious in his faux-Southern accent
Unfortunately GW Bush and the GOP liberals didnt back Katherine Harris in 06...or we would have had this nimrod gone. Bush/Rove probably thought Harris would get tough on illegals....unlike Nelson
Both Florida Senators are embarassing. Nelson is as dumb as a rockpile and Mel Martinez (GOP) is an illegal-loving Hispano-Racist. Florida is like California now...only with male Senators
One more change: The winning candidate must have a MAJORITY of the votes cast. Should a majority not be reached then a run-off election between the two candidates receiving the most votes shall be held within 2 weeks.
This would have eliminated Slick Willy.
Under the current electoral college, Democrats are only motivated to commit enough fraud in urban areas they control to win the electoral vote for the states containing those cities. Illinois, Pennsylvania, New York, California.
If they abolish the electoral college, democrats will be motivated to commit even more massive fraud in those urban areas, sufficient to win the national vote.
That is all you need to know about the reason Democrats want to eliminate the Electoral College.
One Mexican, One Vote...
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