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Texas governor suggests sect may want to move on (FLDS)
The Associated Press ^ | 06/06/2008 | AP

Posted on 06/07/2008 4:39:31 PM PDT by JRochelle

Gov. Rick Perry hinted Thursday that members of a polygamist sect whose children were recently returned amid a botched sex-abuse investigation should pack their bags, a newspaper reported.

Perry, who was in La Baule, France, for a European business conference, said that the state of Texas has an obligation to protect young women from being forced into marriage and underage sex, The Dallas Morning News reported in its online edition.

He also warned members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that child sex abuse won't be tolerated and even suggested that followers of the renegade Mormon sect may want to get out.

"If you are going to conduct yourself that way, we are going to prosecute you," Perry said. "If you don't want to be prosecuted for those activities, then maybe Texas is not the place you need to consider calling home."

Willie Jessop, an FLDS elder who lives in Utah, said Perry's remarks were shocking, particularly given a Texas Supreme Court ruling that forced this week's return of 440 sect children on the grounds that child welfare officials provided scant evidence that the children were in danger.

"It's an outrage that he should even make such gross and broad allegations," Jessop said. "He's listening to people that tell lies about the FLDS."

FLDS officials have accused the state of persecuting sect members for their religious beliefs.

Texas authorities raided the sprawling compound in west Texas in early April after three calls to a domestic abuse hot line, purportedly from a 16-year-old mother who said she was being abused by her middle-aged husband. The calls are now being investigated as a hoax.

Perry said that using the information state authorities had at the time, "they acted with the best interest of those children."

"If responsibility needs to be taken for (court edicts) saying that we stepped across some legal line, I'll certainly take that responsibility," the governor said.

Jessop, who has insisted that children at the ranch were not mistreated, has sidestepped questions about underage marriages at the Yearning for Zion ranch. But he did announce this week that the church would no longer sanction marriages of any girl too young to give legal consent.

Though the children have been returned, a criminal investigation continues.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: firstamendment; flds; govwatch; polygamy; runoutoftown; texas
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To: UCANSEE2
Why don’t you state that there is no evidence, never was, and the whole thing is a lie, and that the State of Texas just wanted to throw away $7 million for nothing?

That is the way it looks : )

141 posted on 06/08/2008 4:46:18 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

“Our side so far has all of the evidence and court rulings to support our case. “

Your side? Are you referring to those dirty old men who rape those young kids, get them pregnant, and make slaves out of them for the rest of their miserable lives? Glad to hear the law is on their side, too bad for the CHILDREN who are the real victims in all of this. Your side, eh?


142 posted on 06/08/2008 4:49:28 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re exactly right, only time will tell. I can honestly say I don’t have a thing against Mormons (my sister is one), other than theology, most of them are great people to be friends with and we have more in common (politically) than we have not in common.

I don’t know why this became a religious *war*.
susie


143 posted on 06/08/2008 4:50:20 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: UCANSEE2

I can see why the reporters would resent it just a little, especially when done by someone who is in the process of disagreeing with you. Gosh, I thought we were all past that!
susie


144 posted on 06/08/2008 4:52:11 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: LeGrande

“Thank you and your comments here have been anti FLDS.”


One comment, designed to help you see what you are doing.
You have used the term anti-FLDS probably a hundred times.

I really don’t think you are pro FLDS. You are just concerned with the ‘law’ and constitution.

That is why I don’t understand why you have to make it an emotional issue, and a religious issue, by referring to anyone who disagrees with you as ‘anti-FLDS’.

I want to see Warren Jeffs ‘control’ of the YFZ Ranch completely destroyed, and the top ‘henchmen’ as well.

In the meantime, the good people of the FLDS can go back to their practice of religion, and more power to them.

They may end up being right, about the end of the world coming soon, and I don’t blame them for sticking together, and putting walls around their temple.

I wish I had a temple like that, but I’d put 20’ walls around it.

Like the Bible says, remove the log in your eye, before complaining about the splinter in someone elses.


145 posted on 06/08/2008 4:52:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2
If true, it means that the FLDS planned to commit crimes in Texas, and planned to get away with it.

No what it means is that the FLDS in YFZ are a handpicked group that may not have committed a crime. What better way for a criminal to beat the justice system than by refusing to commit a crime, especially if it can make them wealthy. They knew that there was going to be an investigation. They aren't stupid.

But, it makes me ask, what would you do, if you were in the same situation?

I would do what the State of Utah did. Investigate, prosecute and convict. Simple.

146 posted on 06/08/2008 4:52:21 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: ViLaLuz

Ok, fair enough. I’m not crazy about him, but I’ve been in FL most of his term in office, so I haven’t seen it up close and personal. On the other hand my Rep is Wexler, so almost anyone seems better! ;)

susie


147 posted on 06/08/2008 4:53:12 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Stopping here and LOL without reading anything else>


148 posted on 06/08/2008 4:53:47 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: brytlea
What is the deal with the sudden use of silly names for girls here? Susie Q? Darling?

There's a baiter on this thread. He's so good at it he might even be a master at it. What would that make him?

149 posted on 06/08/2008 4:55:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (We are going to get McCain or Obama, no ifs ands or buts. I know who I'll vote for.)
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To: UCANSEE2
For example: Woman wants her husband dead, and meets with a hired killer to pay him to do it. Turns out he is a undercover cop, and they bust her and put her in jail for conspiracy to commit murder.

Obviously you are confused. Conspiracy is a crime. Try again. The fourth amendment is very clear.

150 posted on 06/08/2008 4:57:20 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

It seems the problem with the Waco and Ruby Ridge cases was that they DIDN’T remove the children, and ensure their safety.

Now you compare it to the YFZ Ranch, where they did remove them?

What kind of logic is that?


151 posted on 06/08/2008 4:57:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Awestruck

So say you. You’re welcome to your opinion, even if it’s not right....
susie


152 posted on 06/08/2008 4:58:28 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Graybeard58

So do mean he might be a master baiter?


153 posted on 06/08/2008 4:59:10 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Graybeard58

I’m not saying and I’m blushing!


154 posted on 06/08/2008 4:59:33 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: dmw
Your side? Are you referring to those dirty old men who rape those young kids, get them pregnant, and make slaves out of them for the rest of their miserable lives? Glad to hear the law is on their side, too bad for the CHILDREN who are the real victims in all of this. Your side, eh?

That is your problem, you don't understand who the victims are. We are all victims when the government violates anyones constitutional rights.

155 posted on 06/08/2008 5:01:19 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Graybeard58

BTTT


156 posted on 06/08/2008 5:02:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: LeGrande

“There have been no arrests. What are you talking about?”

Exactly. So they have nothing to do with the children being removed from a dangerous environment, until the evidence is processed and reviewed, and arrests can be made.


“If the parents aren’t found guilty of crimes the children should be returned.”

Well, once again we have reality. The children were returned, and the investigation into the crimes hasn’t finished yet, so the alleged perps haven’t had a chance to be found ‘guilty’ or ‘innocent’.


“The Children should not be removed unless a parent has been charged with a crime. Is that so hard to understand? “

No, but that is not what the law states. The children can be removed from a dangerous environment until the investigation is completed, and arrests are made.

The difference in this case was the Judge was overruled in her decision that the children ALL were in ‘imminent’ danger. That is all.


157 posted on 06/08/2008 5:05:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2

Time will prove you wrong.

The raid was unconstitutional from step one.

What the later Court decisions showed is that our system isn’t broken, but CPS tried. They are stupid, emotional, and they failed to manage a run on the Constitution.

Juries will find for FLDS in the millions.


158 posted on 06/08/2008 5:06:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: Awestruck

“when a governor tells a bunch of people who he doesn’t like to get out of the state, it’s exactly like the bad old days of racism.”

So, if the Governor were to say , after a raid on a MAFIA Headquarters, the same thing, then would that be ‘racist’?


159 posted on 06/08/2008 5:09:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Balding_Eagle

In spite of blustering, bluffing Big Willie Jessop,

the fLDS cant afford to be cross examined in court...

They wont stand up to scutiny..

They have too much to hide...


160 posted on 06/08/2008 5:13:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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