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Climate of suspicion [Global Cooling Alert!]
Guardian.co.uk ^
| 6/7/08
| Fred Pearce
Posted on 06/06/2008 10:09:52 PM PDT by melt
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:09:52 PM PDT
by
melt
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To: steelyourfaith; xcamel; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So there you have it. The Global Warmists are latching on to a new argument: Global Warming causes Global Cooling...
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:11:58 PM PDT
by
melt
(Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
To: melt
What tripe. Cooling —> Natural and Good, even though it leads to crop failure and starvation. Warming —> Man made and Bad, even though it leads to a more temperate world more conducive to growing crops.
To: melt
" It is the inevitable consequence of one of nature's climatic cycles."
Oh, so now we actually have "climatic cycles". Thanks for the update.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:13:16 PM PDT
by
A Navy Vet
(In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
To: melt
This is no refutation of man-made global warming. It is the inevitable consequence of one of nature's climatic cycles.Wait. Let me get this straight: Cooling is just a part of nature's cycle but a numerically smaller amount of warming over a longer period of time is a man made catastrophe?
Mark Twain talked about invincible ignorance. He was too optimistic.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:16:06 PM PDT
by
irv
To: melt
Lets see if I have the Guardian’s logic straight.
Warming caused by man.
Cooling caused by nature’s usual cycles.
It’s kind of cool this evening so I’m thinking a good ole’ carbon belch should help warm things up.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:17:15 PM PDT
by
A message
To: melt
This is no refutation of man-made global warming. It is the inevitable consequence of one of nature's climatic cycles. The phrase "nature's climatic cycles" is a refutation of man-made global warming however.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:17:34 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
To: melt
They think nature's cooling will be more than counterbalanced by the warming effect of man-made carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
If it warms: global warming.
If it cools: climate change.
If it stays the same: nature's cooling will be more than counterbalanced by the warming effect of man-made carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Good. All the bases are covered.
To: melt
The deniers of global warming are about to latch on to a new argument. The world is cooling. And they are right - well, slightly.The promoters of global warming had predicted accelerated warming by now.
The deniers of global warming had predicted that it would start cooling by now.
Now exactly who is latching on to a "new" argument?
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:23:51 PM PDT
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: melt
These people are so persuaded that everything manmade is evil, that they will blame every change on man, and will predict doom as a result of mankind's effects.
It starts with an idea: man is bad for the world. Facts are filtered and organized to support the preconception. Any facts which can't be made to fit are ignored. If it's actually getting colder instead of warmer, that's only temporary. It must be El Niño. It couldn't be the sun.
If you don't fall into line, you are a “denier”. Lemmings.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:24:43 PM PDT
by
Rocky
To: melt
“The deniers of global warming...
Should we start calling them the Global Cooling deniers?
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:26:28 PM PDT
by
aquila48
To: Rocky
It’s the “white guilt” thing, applied to an entire species.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:27:43 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
To: melt
Physicists have known for 200 years about greenhouse gases. They first calculated the likely global effect 100 years ago. They have been measuring the accumulation of these gases for 60 years. The world has been warming strongly for 30 years, and nobody has come up with a half-way plausible explanation other than the most obvious. It's the greenhouse gases, stupid.Well physicists, unlike global warming alarmists, have known the overwhelmingly dominant greenhouse gas is water vapor, and that carbon dioxide has almost no effect at all, stupid.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:29:41 PM PDT
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: melt
“Global warming” hoax BUMP!
To: melt
See, there they go saying that even thought the climate naturally cools (and warms) we are still causing climate change.
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:34:09 PM PDT
by
chaos_5
(Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
To: melt
To: melt
They think nature's cooling will be more than counterbalanced by the warming effect of man-made carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.Hey, I'm just curious...... would these people be as alarmed or upset if the global warming was not man-made? Would they point out some of the benefits of warming?
One more question; If we all agreed that global warming is man-made, just how hot do they think we could make it?
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posted on
06/06/2008 10:35:07 PM PDT
by
umgud
To: melt
To: melt
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