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To: tlj18

that is exactly why...and it is about damn time, too...we got troops on the ground 24/7, and this elitist pompous ass says having guys here in the u.s. controling drones in iraq is too stressful on his guys....what a blithering idiot..don’t let the door hit ya dude


8 posted on 06/05/2008 10:57:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: joe fonebone
we got troops on the ground 24/7, and this elitist pompous ass says having guys here in the u.s. controling drones in iraq is too stressful on his guys....

Well, that's the Air Force for you. There's not much love here in the Army for the Air Force.

21 posted on 06/05/2008 11:18:48 AM PDT by tlj18 (Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President!)
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To: joe fonebone
we got troops on the ground 24/7, and this elitist pompous ass says having guys here in the u.s. controlling drones in iraq is too stressful on his guys....what a blithering idiot..don’t let the door hit ya dude

So, you think having more troops in the AOR...and all of the support they need...is a good idea?

30 posted on 06/05/2008 11:42:17 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (3/5 > 1/2)
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To: joe fonebone

I believe you have a major point about the UAV’s! They should be controlled by the ground forces, in country, where and whenever possible! The Air Force resisted this. They wanted qualified pilots to stick fly them from wherever (Fla?). The Marines and Army want a Sgt. on the ground controlling them. The Air Force is the reason there are not more UAV’s in the air over Afghanistan and Iraq!


87 posted on 06/05/2008 3:50:04 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: joe fonebone
"that is exactly why...and it is about damn time, too...we got troops on the ground 24/7, and this elitist pompous ass says having guys here in the u.s. controlling drones in iraq is too stressful on his guys....what a blithering idiot..don’t let the door hit ya dude"

And there would be a lot more Army troops on the ground 24/7 if it were not for Air Force and the Navy pulling "in lieu of" taskings for the Army.

Air Force enlisted folks are being sent over to Iraq to drive convoy trucks. Air Force medics are flying on Air Force helicopters to provide dust-off support to the Army. Navy engineers are being sent to disarm IEDs.

Every Army troop currently in country was flown in on an Air Force transport plane. Every piece of mail to or from a troop goes on an Air Force transport plane. There are not just UAVs, but Air Force flown ELINT and CAS and JSTARS all supporting the troops on the ground. And a significant number of those Air Force CAS and airlift, and yes, UAV drivers live in country.

And yes, when you pull a trigger, kill people, and watch them die on your TV screen, it does not matter if you are in an M1 in Iraq, or a Predator control station on Indian Springs NV, the effect on the mind and soul is the same.

It appears at this point Mosley took responsibility for what happened on his watch. If Mosley, to quote MacArthur, just "fades away", he will have demonstrated more character than Sanchez or Batiste ever had. But that jury is still out.

90 posted on 06/05/2008 4:37:38 PM PDT by magellan
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