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Confederate flag controversy brews at Bloomington school (Minnesota)
KAAL-TV ^ | June 4, 2008 | Justin Piehowski

Posted on 06/04/2008 1:32:11 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

Three seniors at Bloomington Kennedy High School will not be allowed to walk in their graduation ceremony after driving to school with confederate flags flying from their trucks.

Seventy-five other students showed up at the school Wednesday morning to protest the action taken by the school against Justin Thompson, Joey Snyder and another student.

"I figured, you know, we’re seniors, it’s the last day of school…we didn’t mean any offense by it," Thompson said.

Added Snyder: "We didn’t look at it as racist or anything."

But school officials feel that flying a confederate flag violates the school’s student conduct policy. The students have been suspended from all school-sponsored activities.

"We are responsible for the 2,000-plus students that attend this school," said Rick Kaufman, of Bloomington Public Schools. "The very nature of what they did had the potential to create a very serious situation."

Students disagreed.

"They weren’t trying to hurt anybody, they just had it on their cars. It’s just freedom of speech" said Landin Lind, one of 75 students who chanted ‘Let Them Walk’ at the school Wednesday morning.

"I feel it was a racist move, but I feel that they were just kidding around," added student James Granberry, who supports the students. "I didn’t really take offense to it."

School officials added that they’ve dealt with some racism issues at the school recently, which is why they are taking the incident so seriously.

All three students will still receive their diplomas.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: cbf; confederateflag; crossofsaintandrew; discipline; dixie; prank; publicschools; saintandrewscross; zerotolerance
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To: afnamvet
WELL SAID.

free dixie,sw

41 posted on 06/04/2008 7:17:40 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Wasn’t it used internationally as a symbol of resistance to tyranny in the years after the WBTS?”

“Possibly. Knowledge of history has never been that strong in this country. The confederate flag could have mistakenly been used as that.”


Mistakenly used for that???? Whuddaya mean by that dumbass remark, Lad? The statement’s true.
There’s a picture of my Nephew and some of his Texas National Guard Buddies standing in front of their Humvee under the Curved Swords Monument in Baghdad displaying their Confederate and Texas Flags. That’s a symbol of resistance to tyranny if there ever was one.


42 posted on 06/04/2008 7:29:29 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: stand watie

My post is based upon the records of the founding father as well as the recorded history of the United States Congress.

Your post is based upon the wild accusations of a madman that want the confederacy resurrected from it’s grave so that he can pretend to be General Stand Watie all over again.

There is no better example of this madness then your continue use of that abortion like typing style you claim represents how Stand Watie would write on the internet as well as your thinly veiled accusation.


43 posted on 06/04/2008 7:30:01 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I doubt they felt they had much of a stake in that 'fighting against tyranny' stuff

Oh, I don't know about that. Who better to know the tyranny of man than those who have felt the pain of shackles? Who would be more willing to throw off those chains violently with great risk?

The Confederacy could have enlisted the aid of every slave in the field with a promise of freedom in exchange for their valor in battle. Had the South done that the slaves would have obliged because of the bonds that existed whether modern day historians want to acknowledge it or not. There was no message from the Union side that it was riding in to free them since there was no intention to do so.

44 posted on 06/04/2008 7:40:18 PM PDT by groanup (Most of my cliche's aren't original.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Sure thing StoneWall Brigade!


45 posted on 06/04/2008 8:09:19 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: BnBlFlag
That’s a symbol of resistance to tyranny if there ever was one.

My error, I thought you were talking about the original.

46 posted on 06/05/2008 3:56:53 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: groanup
Who better to know the tyranny of man than those who have felt the pain of shackles? Who would be more willing to throw off those chains violently with great risk?

Except those shackles were still on and were going to remain on. There wasn't any chance that they would be able to throw them off as a part of the Soutehrn rebellion.

The Confederacy could have enlisted the aid of every slave in the field with a promise of freedom in exchange for their valor in battle.

That would have gone against everything they believed in.

Had the South done that the slaves would have obliged because of the bonds that existed whether modern day historians want to acknowledge it or not.

But the South didn't do that. And the reason is that with one or two exceptions the Southern leadership were completely opposed to it.

There was no message from the Union side that it was riding in to free them since there was no intention to do so.

There was after the Emancipation Proclamation.

47 posted on 06/05/2008 4:02:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
From another article about it, the three students said:

But the students argue the punishment doesn't fit the crime. They say they show the flag as a sign of rebellion, not racism.

"The confederate army was in rebellion to the U.S. Army who were about money and power," Fredin said. "We never took it as racial or anything like that."


Obviously the students didn't pay attention during history class (or that's the state of education in that area).

I personally don't have any sympathy for them, they are 17 and 18 years old and knew exactly what they are doing, they need to stop playing dumb.
48 posted on 06/05/2008 4:31:37 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: stand watie
fwiw, there are LOTS of those PREJUDICED "useful idiots" in the north = i KNOW about that as i was stationed up there with the US Army.

I can vouch for this, I was stationed at an Air Force base in North Dakota and that area had more racists than you can shake a stick at - I always hear people (liberals) bitch about the South and how racist it is, when the fact is, there are plenty of racist idiots all over the place (and I've seen less racism/prejudice in the South than I've seen up north).
49 posted on 06/05/2008 4:33:42 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: stand watie
fwiw, there are LOTS of those PREJUDICED "useful idiots" in the north

And obviously at least one down South. Except for the "useful" part.

50 posted on 06/05/2008 5:55:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: af_vet_rr

There are racist idiots allover, but I never saw a “colored only” drinking fountain until I traveled to the south...


51 posted on 06/05/2008 6:44:49 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"We are responsible for the 2,000-plus students that attend this school," said Rick Kaufman, of Bloomington Public Schools. "The very nature of what they did had the potential to create a very serious situation."

I'll bet more than one Senior wore a Che Guevara T-shirt on the last day of school with nary a whimper.

52 posted on 06/05/2008 6:49:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: stand watie
Scallywag - that's rough language there

As a native Georgian, I know exactly what that means

54 posted on 06/05/2008 7:48:57 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: af_vet_rr
YEP. when i was stationed "up there" i had a BN CDR (from MA) who told me that he had always believed that EVERYONE in dixie was stupid, uneducated,socially inferior & if they were not those things that they would leave the south forever.

he seemed fascinated that i was educated, well-dressed & intelligent. ---fwiw, it was REALLY hard not to tell him what i truly thought of him but they court martial service-members who say those things (no matter how TRUE) to superior officers.

fwiw, SOME of the most hate-FILLED, ignorant BIGOTS & ANTISEMITES that i ever met in 28 years of combined armed service were DAMNyankees.

free dixie,sw free dixie,sw

56 posted on 06/05/2008 8:04:26 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
I read them regularly, I just don't post much.

I was at a concert at my daughter's school last week (She is a senior) and the orchestra played a selection of "Civil War" songs. The first one was "Marching through Georgia" It brought tears to my eyes to think how far we've come that that song could be played in the south and NO ONE UNDERSTOOD what it meant. I got up and walked out.

And yes, someone who turns their back on their heritage is about as low as they can go.

57 posted on 06/05/2008 8:05:13 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Non-Sequitur
So what was it being used as a symbol for in this case?

Graduation from oppression, and the tyranny of school.
58 posted on 06/05/2008 8:43:25 AM PDT by smug (smug for President; Your only real hope)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
driving to school with confederate flags flying from their trucks.

Good yankees. Where can I send them their graduation gifts?

59 posted on 06/05/2008 8:47:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama?...........you actually deserve to be referred to as "boy")
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To: SoftballMominVA

Speaking of CW songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PT5NUroxA
Mary Fahl, “Going Home” from “Gods and Generals”.
Anybody who listens and watches this and then has no appreciation for their Heritage should be taken out and horsewhipped, tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail!


60 posted on 06/05/2008 8:50:39 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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