Confederate flag controversy brews at Bloomington school (Minnesota)

KAAL-TV ^ | June 4, 2008 | Justin Piehowski

[stand watie]

WELL SAID.

free dixie,sw

[BnBlFlag]

“Wasn’t it used internationally as a symbol of resistance to tyranny in the years after the WBTS?”

“Possibly. Knowledge of history has never been that strong in this country. The confederate flag could have mistakenly been used as that.”

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Mistakenly used for that???? Whuddaya mean by that dumbass remark, Lad? The statement’s true.
There’s a picture of my Nephew and some of his Texas National Guard Buddies standing in front of their Humvee under the Curved Swords Monument in Baghdad displaying their Confederate and Texas Flags. That’s a symbol of resistance to tyranny if there ever was one.

[usmcobra]

My post is based upon the records of the founding father as well as the recorded history of the United States Congress.

Your post is based upon the wild accusations of a madman that want the confederacy resurrected from it’s grave so that he can pretend to be General Stand Watie all over again.

There is no better example of this madness then your continue use of that abortion like typing style you claim represents how Stand Watie would write on the internet as well as your thinly veiled accusation.

[groanup]

I doubt they felt they had much of a stake in that 'fighting against tyranny' stuff

Oh, I don't know about that. Who better to know the tyranny of man than those who have felt the pain of shackles? Who would be more willing to throw off those chains violently with great risk?

The Confederacy could have enlisted the aid of every slave in the field with a promise of freedom in exchange for their valor in battle. Had the South done that the slaves would have obliged because of the bonds that existed whether modern day historians want to acknowledge it or not. There was no message from the Union side that it was riding in to free them since there was no intention to do so.

[stainlessbanner]

Sure thing StoneWall Brigade!

[Non-Sequitur]

That’s a symbol of resistance to tyranny if there ever was one.

My error, I thought you were talking about the original.

[Non-Sequitur]

Who better to know the tyranny of man than those who have felt the pain of shackles? Who would be more willing to throw off those chains violently with great risk?

Except those shackles were still on and were going to remain on. There wasn't any chance that they would be able to throw them off as a part of the Soutehrn rebellion.

The Confederacy could have enlisted the aid of every slave in the field with a promise of freedom in exchange for their valor in battle.

That would have gone against everything they believed in.

Had the South done that the slaves would have obliged because of the bonds that existed whether modern day historians want to acknowledge it or not.

But the South didn't do that. And the reason is that with one or two exceptions the Southern leadership were completely opposed to it.

There was no message from the Union side that it was riding in to free them since there was no intention to do so.

There was after the Emancipation Proclamation.

[af_vet_rr]

From another article about it, the three students said:

But the students argue the punishment doesn't fit the crime. They say they show the flag as a sign of rebellion, not racism.

"The confederate army was in rebellion to the U.S. Army who were about money and power," Fredin said. "We never took it as racial or anything like that."

Obviously the students didn't pay attention during history class (or that's the state of education in that area).

I personally don't have any sympathy for them, they are 17 and 18 years old and knew exactly what they are doing, they need to stop playing dumb.

[af_vet_rr]

fwiw, there are LOTS of those PREJUDICED "useful idiots" in the north = i KNOW about that as i was stationed up there with the US Army.

I can vouch for this, I was stationed at an Air Force base in North Dakota and that area had more racists than you can shake a stick at - I always hear people (liberals) bitch about the South and how racist it is, when the fact is, there are plenty of racist idiots all over the place (and I've seen less racism/prejudice in the South than I've seen up north).

[Non-Sequitur]

fwiw, there are LOTS of those PREJUDICED "useful idiots" in the north

And obviously at least one down South. Except for the "useful" part.

[rockrr]

There are racist idiots allover, but I never saw a “colored only” drinking fountain until I traveled to the south...

[Joe 6-pack]

"We are responsible for the 2,000-plus students that attend this school," said Rick Kaufman, of Bloomington Public Schools. "The very nature of what they did had the potential to create a very serious situation."

I'll bet more than one Senior wore a Che Guevara T-shirt on the last day of school with nary a whimper.

[SoftballMominVA]

Scallywag - that's rough language there

As a native Georgian, I know exactly what that means

[stand watie]

YEP. when i was stationed "up there" i had a BN CDR (from MA) who told me that he had always believed that EVERYONE in dixie was stupid, uneducated,socially inferior & if they were not those things that they would leave the south forever.

he seemed fascinated that i was educated, well-dressed & intelligent. ---fwiw, it was REALLY hard not to tell him what i truly thought of him but they court martial service-members who say those things (no matter how TRUE) to superior officers.

fwiw, SOME of the most hate-FILLED, ignorant BIGOTS & ANTISEMITES that i ever met in 28 years of combined armed service were DAMNyankees.

free dixie,sw free dixie,sw

[SoftballMominVA]

I read them regularly, I just don't post much.

I was at a concert at my daughter's school last week (She is a senior) and the orchestra played a selection of "Civil War" songs. The first one was "Marching through Georgia" It brought tears to my eyes to think how far we've come that that song could be played in the south and NO ONE UNDERSTOOD what it meant. I got up and walked out.

And yes, someone who turns their back on their heritage is about as low as they can go.

[smug]

So what was it being used as a symbol for in this case?

Graduation from oppression, and the tyranny of school.

[wardaddy]

driving to school with confederate flags flying from their trucks.

Good yankees. Where can I send them their graduation gifts?

[BnBlFlag]

Speaking of CW songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PT5NUroxA
Mary Fahl, “Going Home” from “Gods and Generals”.
Anybody who listens and watches this and then has no appreciation for their Heritage should be taken out and horsewhipped, tarred and feathered and ran out of town on a rail!