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Basing Airfare On Passenger's Weight [Weigh-in at the ticket counter]
WTVW ^ | 6/4/08

Posted on 06/04/2008 9:04:55 AM PDT by mngran2

Basing Airfare On Passenger's Weight Possible Given Surging Fuel Costs

Setting passenger airfares the same way air freight charges are calculated -- by weight -- may not be so far-fetched as the airline industry grapples with surging fuel costs.

Bloomberg.com reports an Air Transport Association official says airline CEOs are considering everything in efforts to cut costs and increase revenue.

That's because airline fuel costs have nearly tripled since 2000. U.S. airlines had combined first-quarter losses of one-point-seven-billion-dollars and could end up with losses totalling six-point-one-billion-dollars in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at tristatehomepage.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; fares; transportation; travel
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To: USNBandit

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41 posted on 06/04/2008 9:57:04 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: mngran2

If anybody thinks that they’ll get women to step on a scale at the airport, they’re dreaming.


42 posted on 06/04/2008 9:59:04 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mngran2

That will appeal to the female market segment - getting weighed during the most stressful environment in modern history - at the end of a checkin line at the airport.

“What do you mean I weigh 121 lbs!! That scale is BROKEN!”


43 posted on 06/04/2008 10:00:53 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Not to mention that I will immediately sue under the Americans With Disabilities Act. See how much they save after all the legal costs!


44 posted on 06/04/2008 10:01:04 AM PDT by tmbrrr
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To: Publius6961
The argument can be that the calorically challeged might need help with healthcare and such, so after the tax is collected it can be spent on gay parades and art centers.

Calorically challenged, lol...yep that's me.

45 posted on 06/04/2008 10:01:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Publius6961
The argument can be that the calorically challeged might need help with healthcare and such, so after the tax is collected it can be spent on gay parades and art centers.

Calorically challenged, lol...yep that's me.

46 posted on 06/04/2008 10:01:42 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: glide625

Trains are nice... they’re cheaper, train stations have more and better locations with less security, they’ve got more space, no assigned seating, etc. The only catch is, if you have problems with motion sickness, they’re worse than cars, and far, far worse than airplanes.


47 posted on 06/04/2008 10:01:57 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: mngran2
Not so fast there, airlines. those most likely to be obese are Democrat constituents. And it is the fault of Why'd he that it is so, because the grocery stores in these democrat constituent neighborhoods are devoid of the nutritious fruits and vegetables for which they clamor.

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48 posted on 06/04/2008 10:07:24 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: mngran2

This makes perfect sense to me.

UPS and FedEx tend to treat my packages better than the airlines treat my luggage. Why not use the UPS/FedEx model and charge per pound per mile (you and everything you wear or carry), with a minimum price per package (passenger)?

Charge more for extra services, such as an “oversized box” for wide or tall people.

Raise the price per pound per mile as needed to make a profit; lower the price as needed to stay competitive.


49 posted on 06/04/2008 10:07:58 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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To: DuncanWaring
The problem was that the guy actually needed two-and-a-half seats.

I recently dealt with this situation on a Southwest flight. Some unfortunate big guy came in late and got the center seat in the last row, with me on the aisle. The gentleman was big enough to push me about halfway into the aisle, pinned against the arm-rest. It was literally not possible to sit upright. Since we were in the last row, beverage service and then the line for the restroom meant no escape for the duration. Incredibly uncomfortable for me and, I'm sure, the big dude, who not only had to endure the physical discomfort but spent so much time apologizing that I and everyone in range spent time trying to reassure him.

This was an extreme case, but the width of airline seats lost any connection with the width of American flyers quite a while ago. Americans in 2008 are big people but airline seats are built for Americans in 1958.
50 posted on 06/04/2008 10:09:01 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: CJ Wolf

True and they effectively already do for those needing 2 seats or having extra baggage. It just seems to me to be an over complication of what they do already.

This issue reminds me of a friends child who mentioned to his 2nd grade teacher what he was having for dinner. The teacher jokingly asked if she could ride home with him and come for dinner. He serious reply was ‘Oh no, you’re way to fat to fit in our car.’


51 posted on 06/04/2008 10:09:06 AM PDT by posterchild ("Congress does two things very well: one is nothing and two is overreact." - Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga)
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To: Just another Joe
You've gotta wonder how airlines in other countries have managed to stay afloat.

Many haven't. The ones that have are taxpayer-subsidized.

52 posted on 06/04/2008 10:15:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: mngran2
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"Excuse me... I'm in seat 7-B"


53 posted on 06/04/2008 10:18:02 AM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: mngran2
Hmmm. Not good for me. I'm not fat - but I'm 6'2", 220.

My wife cannot weigh much more than half of what I do, maybe not even half.

Can we take an average?

54 posted on 06/04/2008 10:18:15 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: mngran2
This is the way to do it (that's me on the left) ...

55 posted on 06/04/2008 10:35:29 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mngran2
I can assure you that this will never happen.

For one thing, it would be a logistical pain in the @ss in terms of: (1) the reservation process (is the fare based on the passenger's weight at reservation time, or at boarding time), (2) airport operations (as if any airline is going to implement a weigh-in process that actually works efficiently), and (3) the legal process that would bankrupt any airline that tried to do such a thing (Do pregnant women have to pay more? Do people with wheelchairs have to pay more?).

56 posted on 06/04/2008 10:43:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: mngran2

I guess it makes sense, but I can’t say I’d fly on the airline that tried out this policy. I’m a reasonable size and am comfortable sitting in the airplane seats, so I’d probably even get charged less this way, but still I’m not as young or thin as I once was and I don’t want to be publicly weighed by airline workers, thank you! Those people are rude enough as it is without discussing my weight with me. :P


57 posted on 06/04/2008 10:58:08 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: IYAS9YAS

Knowing the way the airlines work, it will be an archane, “dynamic” pricing voodoo that will be impenetrable to the average person and always jack their fare up, never down.

One other thing, currently they bump based on “fare codes” with cheap seats getting bumped for more expensive ones. Want to bet they would start doing the same based on total $$$ ie the skinny woman gets left at the gate and the whale gets wedged onboard?


58 posted on 06/04/2008 11:02:31 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: glide625
The service sucks, the help is hostile...

Fly Southwest Airlines!

Service has always been great for me and the staff has always been more than helpful. Plus, the LOVE our service men and women. For short haul or coast-to-coast their service and prices are hard to beat.
59 posted on 06/04/2008 11:18:22 AM PDT by TxAg1981
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To: TxAg1981

When I used to fly domestic, I would only fly Southwest; you’re correct, they are very good. At these prices, I doubt they’ll be in business much longer.


60 posted on 06/04/2008 11:22:42 AM PDT by glide625 (Protest Election '08, Neither Free nor Fair)
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