Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran's relationship with FLDS has been severely strained in the aftermath of the raid on the YFZ Ranch.
Posted on 06/03/2008 10:09:31 PM PDT by Utah Girl
To this day he doesn’t know if the phone call was a hoax or not. Ha! That is hilarious! His relationship has been severely strained? That’s another good one!
I don’t see how this sheriff can sleep at night or hold his head up after participating in rounding up all those kids at gunpoint.
Here’s a video about one of the foster care dumping grounds for the FLDS kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KheY7IP0Y7s
Yes, I thought the caption under the picture was just a bit understated. Their relationship has been strained. No kidding.
Good post, thanks.
There was another interview with him posted a while back. He’s a straight shooter.
Between him and the Texas Rangers, they may finally nail this enterprise.
In remote polygamist town, one investigator is trying to buy more time for young girls
It gives a good idea of the problems LE have investigating and prosecuting crimes by FLDS.
Keeping them from leaving the state during the investigation, the documents seized and DNA should make the Texas investigation and cases much stronger, overcoming many of the problems faced in Utah/Arizona.
Horrible... I guess this place was better than being with their own family in the eyes of some here.
If these rules were in place when I was a kid, my Mom would have lost all of us to the State... thank God this was not the case.
My daughter is alarmed by the threats to her freedom by the socialists who seek the highest office of this country... and her Father pointed out that he feared the same at his age.. but the freedom he had then (1960’s) does not exist in this country today.
We are on the slippery slope and just about to slide into the muck.
Yearning For Virgins Ranch
Yeah, it's really tough when there are still some folks out here who remember a thing called the Constitution, and respect that other thing called the law.
And have brains, to realize the lies they are telling, and/or their incompetence.
I really hope the responsible parties get charged with kidnapping. Taking a 37-year-old woman into custody by claiming she's a minor (despite ID being provided--and not running a simple drivers-license check to confirm its authenticity, if they doubted it) is flat out unlawful--without any "good faith" sanctuary in which to hide.
Beware the FReepers who are eager to give us a push.
Thanks for your reply.
I don’t see see a constitutional problem with the investigator in the referenced article. I do see a community hindering a justified investigation of criminal activity. I guess we read it differently.
This sheriff didn’t know didley squat, do didley squat, or take ownership of didley squat. “It was all CPS, I’m just an innocent bystander.” Lordy.
Folks, if your local sheriff wants to locate someone, he can do it. The idea that this sheriff couldn’t locate the guy mentioned in the article, just sounds lame to me.
This sheriff stood back and allowed CPS to run this whole operation. I wonder if he is aware that HE is the top law enforcement official in his county, or if he just gets sign-off from CPS every time he want’s to do something, or is ordered to do something.
When there is proof of child abuse, the adults in the home are generally taken into custody. In this case the children were taken into custody and the adults were left alone.
At the very least, if there is an offending parent in the home, that parent is ordered to leave the home. A judge can be involved, and refuse to allow the parent to return to the home.
Let’s see, swat, an armored vehicle, automatic weapons... yep, we sure learned something from Waco. I wonder if he had matches with him, just in case.
Schleicher County sheriff expects indictments in sect case
By Matt Phinney (Contact)
Tuesday, June 3, 2008
Saying he wants to counteract a "propaganda campaign" by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran this afternoon said he expects indictments in the case.
He also disputed claims by sect officials and spokespeople that the early April raid on the YFZ Ranch was anything but peaceful, denying, for example, a claim that infants were ripped from their mother's arms.
Doran, who said he is talking to only a limited number of media outlets, told the Standard-Times that controversial photos released of sect leader Warren Jeffs deeply kissing the 12-year-old daughter of ranch leader Merrill Jessop are "just the beginning" of evidence likely to be released in the case.
Doran said he expects prosecutors to seek indictments from a Schleicher County grand jury in the case.
The grand jury returned 18 indictments Monday, but none was "out of the ordinary," Schleicher County District Clerk Peggy Williams said this morning.
It's being consistently ignored that the church intentionally concealed who the "fathers" were. How do you implement your plan if the identity of the criminal parent is not known?
'Impeach Texas District Judge Barbara Walther Over FLDS Fiasco' online petetion.
That is why you have a confidential informant. The sheriff has had this person or persons for four years.
"This confidential informant did not lead up to this raid. This confidential informant had no part of that. During the search warrants, this person — persons, actually — was called upon to clarify some things, evidences that were uncovered and bring in some of the FLDS teachings that would match these particular evidences that were uncovered."
The CPS had no problem identifying the parents when they were forced to allow the children to leave.
I think you are guilty of believing the lies the CPS used to defend their actions when they discovered that Sarah didn't exist. I found the fact that the calls from Sarah continued during the raid to be very interesting.
In reading the Sherrif’s comments, it seems that the root of the CPS claim that the cultists were lying, being evasive, etc., is that they refused to produce the girl CPS was looking for.
The one who didn’t exist.
Justified? How justified?
TO start with, this person was on the phone, according to press reports for 30-40 HOURS. How much time did a Texas Ranger spend listening to this person? How many HOURS did the Rangers spend verifying that this was really a person who was at the ranch?
How much time was spent investigating this "Sarah's" claims when even the most cursory trace of the phone would have shown that it came from out of state and hence couldn't POSSIBLY have come from inside the compound.
Now, define justified.
PS. I read a press report that these calls had been recorded. Sure hope so. I want to hear a LOT more about this "hoax" "prank" phone call and CPS/Ranger connections to it.
I agree. Did you notice how much time he spent in disavowal mode? He seemed to preface almost everything he said with a disavowal of some kind. At least 50%, like he expects the criminal cases to crash and burn as well.
But now they have a Mt. Everest to climb because the DA isn't some nameless, faceless bureaucrat like CPS is. The DA presumably has to run for office and isn't going to do the LEAST little thing that's going to get him slapped down by the Appellate and Supreme courts like CPS did. The Rangers are going to have to have some VERY strong proof I think.
Did you catch the part where the Sheriff said that they were still receiving calls from the nonexistent girl, days into the raid? When the LEO's had total control of the compound and they had already removed all of the young women?
I also liked the part where the Sheriff disclosed that the raid started in the dead of the night. I also found it interesting that with an inside informant/s they only thought that there were a hundred people or so in the compound. I think that the Sheriff is lying about the informant to try and get the FLDS to point fingers at each other.
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