Posted on 06/02/2008 11:17:43 AM PDT by jazusamo
One former soldier recounted an interrogation of an Iraqi by his fellow combatants so brutal he likened it to "a frat house gang rape."
Another was still troubled not by his close brushes with death, but by the times he nearly shot innocent Iraqi civilians.
And a third was exasperated and puzzled by being asked to fulfill what he called "ridiculous" orders to harass Iraqi residents and was discouraged from helping those in distress.
He called the war "immoral and absurd."
All came together Saturday afternoon at Seattle's Town Hall to share their troubling and sometimes graphic war stories in the hopes that they will inspire and motivate a largely silent public to call for an end to the military occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.
In a counterpoint to calls to continue the occupation, nearly a dozen U.S. soldiers, a military wife, the mother of a soldier and a doctor treating veterans with psychiatric problems told their anti-war stories to a respectful audience that filled the hall.
Former Army Sgt. Joshua Simpson served in Mosul with an intelligence team trying to get information about insurgent forces attacking Americans.
"Ninety-five percent of the people we arrested had nothing to do with the insurgency, but we were still told to interrogate them," Simpson told the crowd.
He'd scream and yell at the prisoners, sometimes reducing them to tears or self-abuse such as hitting their heads repeatedly against the wall. He saw prisoners horribly bruised and bloodied by Iraqi interrogators. He wants the war to end.
"We need to support the troops who refuse to fight," Simpson said.
The event was organized by the nonprofit Iraq Veterans Against the War, which is working for an immediate end to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, the payment of reparations to the Iraqi and Afghan people for harm caused in the wars, and full funding for the Veterans Health Administration to better provide medical care for returning veterans.
There didn't appear to be any counterprotesters at Saturday's Town Hall event, which was called Northwest Winter Soldier. It was modeled on the first Winter Soldier protest held in 1971 in opposition to the Vietnam War and also organized by veterans.
After the speakers finished, a march was scheduled through downtown.
The soldiers called on U.S. lawmakers to cut funding and force the Bush administration to stop what they saw as an unjust, unwarranted war.
"The longer we're over there," said Joshua Farris, a former Army specialist in Iraq, "the more it will inflame the violence when we leave."
Many said they went to Iraq hoping to help civilians, but found that often wasn't the case. U.S. troops frequently referred to all Iraqis and Middle Easterners as "hajji," an ethnic slur. In medical units, they became "range balls," meaning they were like the golf balls hit on driving ranges that are of low value and that you don't mind losing.
The veterans called for better medical support for returning soldiers, saying they'd see friends suffering from untreated post-traumatic stress, leading to suicide, domestic violence and divorce.
"Where is our government when they need them the most?" asked Tracy Malzan, who spoke along with her husband, Seth, who served as an Army sergeant. "We must talk about these issues every day ... until every service member comes home."
One former soldier recounted an interrogation of an Iraqi by his fellow combatants so brutal he likened it to "a frat house gang rape."
I can't help but think the referrence was to the alleged "Duke" rape case and that was a phony just as I suspect most of these stories are. I believe Lisa Stiffler is the typical leftist Seattle journalist.
Winter soldiers in June?
The modern John Kerrys. The worst kind of feces.
Northwest Winter Soldier Ping!
Ingrate! They are protesting the war and protesting the US government's actions, just as the Iraqis are getting to do the same after decades of brutal oppression. And they call Iraqi liberties unjust?
You nailed it, pissant.
They found a small handfull of pansies and act like this is the way it is. What a crock, echoes of jenjis khan.
I was an RTO with a MACV Advisory Team assigned to ROK’s for a short period. This Boy would would have gone cationic if he had witnessed their field interrogations.
Neither the author or these lowlifes let the facts get in the way of what’s really happening in Iraq.
In several hundred thousand people you will always be able to find a few whiners or those willing to turn against their fellows and thier copuntry....
Bravo Sierra. In other words this is pure Bovine Scat.
Nope. No journalistic bias here.
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I’m sure you would have like the overwhelming majority of our people would, this is BS, IMO.
Since the "reporter" is utterly sympathetic to these lowlifes, I wonder if she bothered to check out their credentials to see if they actually served, and (if so) if they were actually shoveling $#!+ in Louisiana rather than in-country.
The list of liberal anti-war "soldiers" who exaggerated or fabricated their supposed military service is QUITE long.
“We shouted at them and beat them and starved them, looking for the tiniest bit of intelligence. And they still said, “Seat both delegations, but give them only half a vote per delegate!”
I wonder if as many of these guys are frauds as were the “winter soldier” ringleaders.
How many kids today have been a real brawl? It was common when I was a kid, the physical brawl is that what prepares you for the bun fights when you become a man.
“Seattle’s Town Hall”
Need I say more?
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