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Some facts on climate legislation (Does Lieberman-Warner establish a religion?)
Ohio.com ^ | 6/01/08

Posted on 06/01/2008 11:11:10 AM PDT by Libloather

Some facts on climate legislation
Published on Sunday, Jun 01, 2008

Here are questions about the Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act that the Senate is to begin debating this week:

Q: What is it?

A: The bill by Sens. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., and John Warner, R-Va., would create a ''cap-and-trade'' program designed to reduce environmentally harmful carbon dioxide emissions by power companies, big manufacturers, refineries and other businesses.

Q: How would it work?

A: Affected companies would be forced to meet new limits — the ''cap'' part — on their emissions. They would have to reduce emissions by about 2 percent each year beginning in 2012. By 2050, their emissions would have to be at least 71 percent lower than 2005 levels. They could receive billions in government assistance to make the transition.

Q: What about the ''trade'' part?

A: If companies can't meet the new caps, they could buy, sell or trade government-issued carbon credits — the ''trade'' part — through a government-run auction system or through a separate carbon market that would work like the stock market.

Q: Where would the money go?

A: Money raised by the credit auction, an estimated $1 trillion, would be earmarked to help pay for tax credits and other assistance to affected companies and consumers. It also would help fund energy technology research, development of renewable energy sources and conservation programs.

Q: What does it mean to me?

A: Government officials predict consumers' average annual energy bills could rise by $30 to $325 by 2020 as power companies are forced to shift from fossil fuels to more expensive renewable energy sources. Business groups say higher energy prices and costs associated with meeting new requirements could hammer manufacturers and other businesses, send the economy into a tailspin and result in millions of job cuts.

Q: So why even do it?

A: Proponents of the bill say global warming problems could eventually be more costly if the United States doesn't take steps to reduce emissions. Also, lessening the nation's dependence on foreign oil and other fossil fuels would make the country safer and eventually make energy costs cheaper.

Q: What are the chances this will become law?

A: Hard to say. Especially with today's already high gas and energy prices and other economic problems, it faces a tough fight in the Senate. The House has yet to introduce a companion bill. President Bush opposes the idea of a cap-and-trade system.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; climate; climatechange; climatesecurityact; congress; environment; globalwarming; johnwarner; lieberman; liebermanwarner; religion; s2191; warming
Global Warming is a Religion

PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ON FREEDOM OF RELIGION (1789)

James Madison's Proposed Amendment, June 8, 1789
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext, infringed."

Madison's Interpretation of His Proposed Amendment
"Congress should not establish a [national] religion, and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any manner contrary to their conscience."

House Committee Report, Proposed Amendment, July 28, 1789
"No religion shall be established by law, nor shall the equal rights of conscience be infringed."

Samuel Livermore's Substitute Amendment, August 15, 1789
"Congress shall make no laws touching religion or infringing the rights of conscience."

Amendment Approved by the House, August 24, 1789
"Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, nor shall the rights of Conscience be infringed."

Amendment Approved by the Senate, September 9, 1789
"Congress shall make no law establishing articles of faith, or a mode of worship, or prohibiting the free exercise of religion."

Compromise Amendment Approved by Congress, September 25, 1789 (This is the version which was added to the Constitution in the First Amendment.)
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

1 posted on 06/01/2008 11:11:11 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: xcamel; Reform Canada

In-before-camel post.


2 posted on 06/01/2008 11:33:27 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

for reference


3 posted on 06/01/2008 1:12:35 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Libloather; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 06/01/2008 11:32:52 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Libloather; 11B40; A Balrog of Morgoth; A message; ACelt; Aeronaut; AFPhys; AlexW; America_Right; ..
DOOMAGE!

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5 posted on 06/02/2008 10:38:38 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; steelyourfaith; Delacon

The Senate is just starting their discussions on CSPAN-2.


6 posted on 06/02/2008 11:09:09 AM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: Libloather
“eventually make energy costs cheaper”

I don't believe this BS one iota. Energy prices could conceivably remain the same but, no way will the price decrease.

7 posted on 06/02/2008 12:13:31 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Libloather

Libloather ... you have an issue with your quote of the 1st Amendment. There is not a Period “.” after “thereof” but a “;”. The first subclause of the article is not a separate issue from the rest of the article but rather defines what is the ultimate justified basis for conscience in the public square where the Government is petitioned for grievances: conscience arising from religious principal. It is all part of ONE sentence.

Far from being a forbidden reason to enact laws, it is the ONLY specifically protected basis for laws.

The only limit is that such a law cannot require public profession of some statement of religious truth as a prerequisite to participation in the processes of government or in society in general—coupled with giving the government suitable police powers to do something about non-conformist. That is what it means to respect an establishment of religion. Not merely “official” but “authorative”.


8 posted on 06/03/2008 11:03:02 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne
It is all part of ONE sentence.

I think we're on the same side on this one. I should've posted the web link of the posted info. Yep, I messed up.

9 posted on 06/03/2008 7:15:48 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; writer33
DOOMAGE!

Only if this debacle passes as law. (The RATS already know it won't - this time. It's just warm-up for the real thing.)

10 posted on 06/03/2008 7:19:51 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

Definitely doomage. Especially if senor McCain gets elected, he’ll be the first one to run this back up on the Hill.

And stop using quotes from Founding Fathers, McCain nor any Dem stops using their quotes after the First Amendment. And forget about the Tenth Amendment. The federal government will apparently handle everything, including underwear price gouging.


11 posted on 06/03/2008 7:39:37 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: All

TO ALL:
-have you signed the carbon belch pledge, yet?

http://www.carbonbelchday.com/109/pledge.asp?RID=&PID

Don’t forget, Thursday June 12th is Carbon Belch day!


12 posted on 06/07/2008 6:13:22 PM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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