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Republicans Fumble the Farm Bill
Townhall.com ^ | June 1, 2008 | Robert Bluey

Posted on 06/01/2008 4:26:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/01/2008 4:26:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It is amazing how much law is aimed at agriculture in some way or another.

One thing that always annoys me is that high fructose corn syrup is in everything these days because of the sugar tariffs. These tariffs protect farmers that have stubbornly chosen to grow the wrong crop and drives candy companies (jobs) to Canada and Mexico.

The idiotic ethanol fuel subsidies are another example of Congress screwing America generally, at the benefit of certain agribusinesses.

Congress is the enemy of the American people and the US Constitution.


2 posted on 06/01/2008 4:35:32 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Fools get what they deserve in the end. You are responsible for the government that enslaves you.)
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To: Kaslin
Republicans Fumble...
Could have stopped right there.
3 posted on 06/01/2008 4:36:25 AM PDT by realdifferent1 (I hope the 'War on Terror' goes better than the 'War on Poverty'.)
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To: Kaslin

Corn for fuel...An absurdity!!


4 posted on 06/01/2008 4:43:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: MichiganConservative

[Congress is the enemy of the American people and the US Constitution.]

Amen to that. The U.S. Congress has done more damage to the economy and to the Constitution than the Islamic terrorist have done to American people.


5 posted on 06/01/2008 4:50:36 AM PDT by kindred (I am now a third party conservative and glad conservative Bob Barr will be on the ballot..)
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To: Sacajaweau

Corn for fuel...An absurdity!!

Oil at $9.00/ gallon is an absurdity. (Last week in England)

To produce the food you eat. a $200,000 tractor will burn 20+ gallons of diesel fuel an hour. $4.25 right now.

The combine the farmer uses to harvest the crop cost over 1 million dollars US currency.

The seed that he plants cost over $250.00 to cover 3½ acres.

The fertilizer he spreads to grow the crop cost over $300. per acre.

If you think the American farmer is getting rich, I suggest you attempt to buy some land that cost $5,500.00 per acre and get in get into the business.


6 posted on 06/01/2008 5:15:21 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist Muslims in the WH)
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To: Kaslin

The GOP members of Congress either don’t get it, or get it all too well and are making their plans for their post-Congress careers.

The 2006 defeat had less to do with the war and more to do with what was perceived to be corruption and hypocrisy by the GOP. Since 2006, the GOP hasn’t embraced conservative principles. Rather, it has rushed headlong to embrace it’s reputation as being the political party of Corruption, Ineptness, and Hypocrisy (soon to be registered trademark).

The thing that I just haven’t been able to figure is how the GOP members could be so stupid as to not see what was unfolding before their eyes. The exit polls from 2006, while generally hushed up, are out there and avaialble. Some folks like Sen. Coburn are openly talking about it being “the hypocrisy, stupid.”

Then it started to occur to me that perhaps the GOP members of Congress see the writing on the wall so brightly that they’re actually working strategies for their own personal post-Congress careers. Perhaps the GOP members of Congress have accepted the fact that they’re going to be routed this year, and are doing what they need to do to beef-up their resumes as future lobbyists, industry representatives, etc. You don’t do that by actually holding the line on spending. You do that by showing what a good little employee you’ll be for the special interests of choice.

For obvious reasons, this does not bode well in the short term for conservatives. But in the long run, it might be exactly what’s needed. Maybe, just maybe, the rout of the GOP will be so huge that conservatives will finally pick another political party at it’s champion.

This year might be the “Whig year” for the GOP. If so, the “GOP Oblivion thread” in November will be an interesting place to be.


7 posted on 06/01/2008 5:39:44 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Kaslin

Lets face it, the past and current “crop” (pun intended) of republicans law makers and elected officials are idiots they have no spine and represent no one but themselves. and we deserve exactly what we get.


8 posted on 06/01/2008 5:54:09 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (Todays politicians, living proof why we have and need a second amendment to the constitution.)
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To: Kaslin

and the Republicans wonder why they lost the majority in both houses of Congress last time after only four years...


9 posted on 06/01/2008 6:07:33 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: chainsaw
The combine the farmer uses to harvest the crop cost over 1 million dollars US currency.

Really? What brands?

10 posted on 06/01/2008 6:30:30 AM PDT by LeGrande
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"To produce the food you eat. a $200,000 tractor will burn 20+ gallons of diesel fuel an hour. $4.25 right now."

As you probably know, what the tractor burns in fuel depends on what task the tractor is performing. Breaking ground with a 35 foot disc is going to burn much, much more fuel than using a planter at 6 mph and relatively low rpm. I find the 20+ gallons/hour a bit high for an average.

"The combine the farmer uses to harvest the crop cost over 1 million dollars US currency."

That figure is high as well. $350k will buy you a state-of-the-art combine, minus the heads.

"The fertilizer he spreads to grow the crop cost over $300. per acre."

I guess that might depend on where you farm. In my part of the country, nitrogen has not gotten anywhere near $300/acre. We are currently paying approximately one-third of that figure.

"If you think the American farmer is getting rich, I suggest you attempt to buy some land that cost $5,500.00 per acre and get in get into the business.

If you're talking about Illinois, that price may be accurate, but in Louisiana good farm acreage can be had for $1,500 and less. The highest price I've seen in recent years was $2,000/acre, but that was exceptional quality land, precision leveled with a well.

While I agree with your assessment that most folks are not going to get rich farming, it must be noted that prices vary widely depending on location.

11 posted on 06/01/2008 7:37:21 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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Most folks don’t realize that about 90 percent of the farm bill is devoted to ‘nutrition programs’ and other spending that does not go directly to any farmer.


12 posted on 06/01/2008 7:39:38 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LeGrande

Plenty of decent used ones for sale but that million may be for the “Combine Three Ina Pack”.


13 posted on 06/01/2008 7:54:27 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kellynla

And they are going to lose bigger still unless they get back to being conservatives and quickly.


14 posted on 06/01/2008 8:17:31 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: chainsaw

The trouble with American Farmers today is: They are over capitalized. You don’t have to keep buying new equipment.
there is no longer any reason for subsidies, if there ever was. Let the market decide the price of milk, soybeans,
corn, etc.


15 posted on 06/01/2008 8:22:02 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Piquaboy

Oh I think the GOP will lose more seats in Congress...
they’ll just have to get their act together for 2010 but you are correct; conservatives need to take back the GOP and do it ASAP! Actually, I’d rather see a two party system of Liberal(Democrat) vs. Conservative(GOP). Get rid of the RINO’s and bring the Reagan & Blue Dog Democrats and Conservative Independents into the GOP which would make more sense.


16 posted on 06/01/2008 8:31:35 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I am getting old enough that waiting as long as we need to is not an option for me. Not much else we can do about it though immediatly. I like your idea but it is not going to happen.


17 posted on 06/01/2008 8:37:13 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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“I like your idea but it is not going to happen.”

After America elected and reelected a three-time draft dodger POTUS; I’ve learned to say “never say never.” LOL


18 posted on 06/01/2008 8:50:31 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: LeGrande

Really? What brands?

Try a John Deere Dealer he’ll be glad to sell you one.


19 posted on 06/01/2008 3:54:34 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist Muslims in the WH)
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To: upcountryhorseman

The trouble with American Farmers today is: They are over capitalized. You don’t have to keep buying new equipment.
there is no longer any reason for subsidies, if there ever was. Let the market decide the price of milk, soybeans,
corn, etc.

Without the farmer there will be no milk,soybeans or corn. He is entitled to make a profit.

In 1936 there were 11.5 million farmers in the US. today there are less than 1.5 million. Reason: prices increased but the returns didn’t keep pace.


20 posted on 06/01/2008 4:00:32 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist Muslims in the WH)
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