David Frum on Scott McClellan's new book: George Bush got the team he deserved

National Post (Canada) ^ | May 30, 2008 | David Frum

[CutePuppy]

Something from someone else who has been "there" and had his share of differences and trials and tribulations in the White House - obviously subjective, but interesting look at the President's management style.

[nathanbedford]

Here, Frum is alleging that George Bush has a passive aggressive personality.

Born of his own insecurities, this kind of personality compels Bush constantly to test the loyalty of his subordinates by demeaning them. Thereafter, he proves his self-worth by seducing them again. This pattern fit Bill Clinton to a "t." One wonders whether the award of the medal of freedom to the likes of George Tenet is another expression of this syndrome.

We have no way of knowing whether Frum's analysis is on the mark. Nor can we say that it excuses Scott McClellan's treachery. If that is what Fromm intended, his analysis was wide of the mark. Bush might indeed have the psychological faults Frum alleges but that certainly does not relieve McClellan of his duty to the office and to the country.

Clearly there is no love lost between Frum and Bush. Strangely, Frum seems not to regard the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and against terror to be the kind of high moral purpose which he recommends should be employed to gain and hold the loyalties of strong individuals. Sadly, he does not elaborate on his remarks. For example, he does not support his observations of the Secretary of State and her alleged weakness with any facts. Finally, it is an extraordinary attack from a neocon who had such a high degree of influence.

[CutePuppy]

Good points, all, and something I noticed as well. I also saw similarities in some traits and [weak] staffing decisions with Clinton who also prized staff's personal loyalty and/or self-interest over strength of their character. Particularly, I was always annoyed by Bush's use of nicknames (which seemed demeaning to me) or self-reinforcing statements such as "I am a decider" or "I have a political capital and I intend to use it" after winning 2004 election. As Lady Thatcher said, "Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." so that allegation by Frum rang very true to me.

I didn't get the "feel" he is excusing what Scott McLellan did, rather he expressed some sympathy to a weak personality who was promoted to the level of his incompetence (case of Peter Principle) and used him and this episode as a bridge to similarly describe a large part of cast chosen to be in inner circle for reasons other than qualifications or ideology.

There is definitely no love lost between Frum and Bush, as could be evidenced from Frum's previous articles, though he was always stalwart on subject of WOT and Iraq. I'd like the article to be more expansive and more buttressed by facts, but I think his emphasis, as title has implied, was on Bush's surrounding staff chosen for [perceived] loyalty, not necessarily competency. Like you, I also thought that Frum's shot at Rice was gratuitous and unwarranted.

I always like to keep in mind what Abraham Lincoln said:
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power."

On that score Bush has done well in many aspects, particularly being steadfast on prosecuting WOT and Iraq, but also failed in many aspects, including his decisions re staff and ineptness in defending them and their actions on his behalf, e.g. Lewis Libby, Harriet Miers, post-Katrina PR fiasco etc. One never knows if the action is taken due to strength of conviction or character, or simply obstinacy.

[pepsionice]

After the Harriet Miers episode....this story really explains alot about why it was so screwed and why Harriet eventually got dropped. In the end....we all feel like most of the member of Mayberry have taken over running the White House...with Bush being played by Andy Griffith who we can never say anything really bad about...but have to accept the White House “as is”.

[Recon Dad]

Frum seems not to regard the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and against terror to be the kind of high moral purpose which he recommends should be employed to gain and hold the loyalties of strong individuals.

Maybe in the case of Iraq Frum might find the same premise at work as he eludes to in this article.

[txrangerette]

Scooter Libby was VP Cheney’s guy.

Bush didn’t stand up for his people in the Plame witchhunt. He made complimentary remarks about the Prosecutor. He refused to point to the politics of it all.

A man who admittedly leaked, Armitage, is scot free. Libby, who didn’t and wasn’t alleged to have, winds up with a giant legal bill and a hefty fine and prison sentence and losing his job and law license because he told a different story to investigators than his own notes showed (which he turned over to them) and than reporters involved in the case told.

And Wilson and Plame and the rogue CIA never had to answer for anything about their lies and nefarious, America harming activities.

Yet you’re wondering about Bush’s loyalty to people like Libby??

Yes, he commuted his jail time.

But everything else stands. And that “everything else” stinks to the skies of DemLib plots and hateful partisanship and prosecutorial excess. For which they will never be exposed, much less punished.

If this is Bush standing up for personal cronies, I’d hate to see what would happen if he let them twist in the wind. /sarcasm

[txrangerette]

Frum absolves everyone of their fiduciary reponsibilities as public servants and employees of the people of the United States.

On that we agree to disagree with Frum.

I do not trust Frum. He has his own agenda and like McClellan is seeking money which is based on the fact that both of them worked in the Bush WH and now are out and trading off of that. Otherwise, what would they have?

I’m not claiming that everything Frum says is always false.

I’m saying he’s an operator playing both sides of the fence, based on his stint of working in the Bush WH, to make a nice living today. He knows how to thread that needle, where to walk that line.

McClellan introduced his book and himself on Obermann. McClellan is hopelessly transparant and unbalanced.

Frum is wiser, if you want to call it wisdom. A much more effective operator. You might even call it “triangulation”.

[CutePuppy]

Yet you’re wondering about Bush’s loyalty to people like Libby??

Article is about Bush choosing personnel on basis of their loyalty him, not his loyalty to them.

I was referring to his and his staff ineptness in standing up for people loyal to him / WH. We can safely assume that Bush was loyal to some, e.g. Alberto Gonzales and others, yet he and others in WH were still incredibly inept in defending them.

[nathanbedford]

Neither Frum's article nor our discussion has touched on the elephant in the room: Dick Cheney. I believe that the history of the Bush administration will never be properly understood until Cheney's role has been illuminated.

It is known that Cheney was reluctant to air his views in the presence of members of the administration but he had private, prolonged, and, undoubtedly, influential access to Bush. If mediocrities were allowed to stay in place, where was Cheney? If Bush was handicapped by a flaw of personality from recognizing and removing mediocrities, where was Cheney?

I concede that this business becomes complicated when one applies Frum's theories to the Scott McClellan affair, which has evidently much to do with the Valerie Plame affair, which of course intimately involved the Vice President and therefore might well have considerably reduced the vice president's influence at least in these matters.

If Bush's psychological needs drove him to appoint loyalists even at the price of weakness of character in his subordinates, it's odd that he chose the likes of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and Colin Powell, none of whom could possibly be creditably called weak in character.

[Hardastarboard]

I was always annoyed by Bush's use of nicknames (which seemed demeaning to me)

Nicknames are a Southern tradition, and not intended to be demeaning (normally). Correct me if I'm wrong, NB.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

This analysis — and coming from David Frum — rings true. Bush has been badly served by his staff (other than Rove and a few others) but Bush put them in that place and left them there. And as Frum notes, loyalty to a person is much weaker than loyalty to an idea, a cause, a conviction, a vision. Bush wasn’t a movement conservative and he surrounded himself with people who weren’t movement conservatives — and look at what he ended up with.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

He may not ever write it, but I’m looking forward to Dick Cheney’s memoir, especially if he could really “tell it like it was/is”. I doubt he would have allowed a guy like Scott McClellan to have the Press Secretary job — McClellan was clearly unsuited for it on any level. But then again, Cheney was apparently responsible for bringing Paul O’Neill into the cabinet...

Bottom line: Bush had some fatal flaws in his personality that resulted in poor choices in staffing his Administration, and then he didn’t have the instincts for cutting his losses until those losses started to really hurt. It’s one of the key reasons this Administation failed on so many levels and important issues.

[TexasCajun]

[Ann Archy]

David Frum is a disloyal scum also.

[Ann Archy]

Cheney was apparently responsible for bringing Paul O’Neill into the cabinet

Are you POSITIVE???? That does NOT sound Dick Cheney, the most COMPETENT person in government to bring in a WEASEL like O'Neill.

[Ann Archy]

Dana has a set, unlike Scotty.

[Dante3]

What has Dick Cheney said, if anything, about protecting our borders and amnesty?

[Ann Archy]

You are JOKING......right?

[Dante3]

In other words, you have no idea.

[Ann Archy]

Geesh, Louise.....Cheney’s baliwick is FOREIGN policy stuff. I thought EVERY one knew that....sorry.