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It's decision day for Democrats (Live Thread -delegates to be apportioned)
cnn ^ | 05/31/08 | cnn

Posted on 05/31/2008 5:53:14 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

All-night meeting fails to come up with resolution Rules committee searching for plan to count Michigan, Florida delegates Both states' delegations invalidated for violating party rules Members of the Democratic National Committee's rules and bylaws panel convened for more than five hours behind closed doors Friday evening. The meeting ended at 1:30 a.m. ET Saturday -- eight hours before the committee is scheduled to hold a public hearing on the matter.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; clintonobamariots; dncplantation; donfowler; fl2008; florida; fowler; hillary; mi2008; michigan; operationchaos; racewar
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To: TornadoAlley3

Post 904 I think...


2,121 posted on 06/01/2008 1:15:14 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: tcrlaf

Yes they are - ain’t it grand?


2,122 posted on 06/01/2008 1:20:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: sodpoodle

dittos - amen - how are you? - bump


2,123 posted on 06/01/2008 1:20:50 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: penelopesire

I had to leave the thread yesterday too - caught up on some of it in the night last night...will have to finish reading the rest of it another day. But am downloading it for permanent safe keeping.

This is a classic.


2,124 posted on 06/01/2008 1:22:15 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

A Clinton Hurricane Hits Outside the DNC Hearing Room
May 31, 2008 2:05 PM

There was a tornado watch outside the Democratic National Committee’s Rules & Bylaws Committee meeting at the Marriot Wardman Park Hotel Saturday afternoon. And there was a brewing storm inside the hotel as well.

A group of public officials — allies of both Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama — walked out of the hearing room to discuss their willingness to come together on a plan to seat all their delegates, each voting at half-delegate status, but representatives of the Clinton campaign from outside Florida interrupted their press conference to dispute the idea that the Clinton campaign agreed with the plan.

The “Florida unity” group, which included Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a Clinton supporter, Rep. Bob Wexler, D-Florida, am Obama supporter, and Florida Democratic National Committee member Jon Ausman of Tallahassee, who filed a challenge to the DNC’s decision to not recognize any of Florida’s delegates.

They seemed to come around the idea that for now the DNC would agree to seat Florida’s entire 211-member delegation at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August, though all the delegates — pledged and superdelegates — would have their vote count as half a delegate. The move would net Clinton 19 pledged delegates. Participants seemed to agree that the door was open to the eventual Democratic nominee seating them at full strength if he or she so chose.

Clinton campaign surrogate Lanny Davis stood outside the circle and interrupted, raising his voice in protest that the Clinton campaign had agreed to anything less than a 100% seating of the delegates at 100% of their strength.

Nelson noted that he was speaking “on behalf of the voters of Florida,” not on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

“They’re misrepresenting our stance,” Davis said repeatedly.

Then Arthenia L. Joyner, Clinton’s designated Florida representative, approached the circle.

“The campaign is only for 100%,” Joyner said.

Davis and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, a fiery supporter of Sen. Clinton’s, exchanged some heated words with Ausman after the Florida DNC member suggested they had no business speaking.

Davis took issue with some from the Florida unity group saying the Obama campaign’s concession was “generous” since Clinton would net 19 delegates.

“That is not generous when they take away 50%,” Davis said. “That is spin!”

What’s wrong with netting 19 delegates? “It’s 19 less than the people of Florida voted,” Davis said.

This was more than Florida DNC member Ausman could apparently take. “I can say they’re being generous,” Ausman said of the Obama campaign, “and I’m the one who filed the petition.”

“Are you a paid staff member for Clinton?” Ausman asked Davis.

“Actually I’m just a friend,” said Davis.

“Are you a designated representative of the Clinton campaign?” Ausman, who may be a foot taller than Davis, asked.

“I am not,” Davis said.

“Why don’t you let the designated representative speak for Clinton and you be silent?” Ausman said, more a statement than a question. “Are you from Florida?”

“Why don’t you go about your business?” Jones asked Ausman.

“As a matter of fact I will not be silent,” Davis said, “you’re not going to silence me.”

“You had your interview,” interjected Jones. “Why don’t you let someone else be interviewed? I am the designated representative for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. My name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones and I represent the great state of Ohio.

“We don’t expect that the Obama campaign will be so ‘generous’ as to ‘give’ us the 19 delegates,” Jones continued. “It is in fact more generous and more appropriate to count all the votes as they were cast.”

Jones would not comment on the Clinton campaign’s position that Obama be awarded zero delegates and zero popular votes from Michigan, where his name was not on the ballot.

- jpt

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2,125 posted on 06/01/2008 2:06:58 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCKjAV1NM8k

Lanny Davis ignored


2,126 posted on 06/01/2008 2:12:47 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

***how are you?***

In total denial that this *democratic selection* process has anything to with the American election for POTUS.

How did we sink so low, so fast, so ignominiously?


2,127 posted on 06/01/2008 3:02:38 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The Credentials Committee determines and resolves issues concerning the recognition and seating of delegates and alternates to the Convention. (It does not determine the distribution of passes for admission to the Convention Hall.) Its recommendations are presented in a report voted on by the delegates as the first item of business at the Convention.

The Credentials Committee is expected to meet sometime prior to the Convention with the date and location to be announced. As with the other standing committee meetings, the Credentials Committee meeting will be open to the public and to the press.

Elected to chair the Credentials Committee are Alexis Herman, James Roosevelt, Jr. and Eliseo Roques-Arroyo.

Alexis Herman served as U.S. Secretary of Labor from 1997 to 2001. She served as DNC Chief of Staff for Chairman Ron Brown and later was named CEO of the 1992 Democratic National Convention. Since 2005, she has served as a Co-Chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee and also served as a Co-Chair of the Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling.

James Roosevelt, Jr. is President and CEO of Tufts Health Plan, a Massachusetts based Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) and was formerly Associate Commissioner for Retirement Policy of the Social Security Administration in the Clinton Administration. He is the chief legal counsel for the Massachusetts Democratic Party and Co-Chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee.

Eliseo Roques-Arroyo, a native of Puerto Rico, served as Executive Assistant to Commonwealth of Puerto Rico Senate Minority Leader Miguel Hernandez-Agosto and to Puerto Rico Delegate to Congress Antonio J. Colorado. He is a former Executive Director of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico and presently a member of the DNC.


2,128 posted on 06/01/2008 4:44:14 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Oh - thanks for that good link...ha ha ha ha ha..priceless....Lanny baby just ignored ignored ignored...luv it.


2,129 posted on 06/01/2008 5:57:54 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Frum DU...(This is funny...)

Speaking of alternative possible outcomes, imagine if your candidate hadn't assumed that she'd have the nomination warped up on Feb 5th.

2,130 posted on 06/01/2008 7:43:04 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: Onelifetogive

God is just - LOL - and sometimes quite funny....


2,131 posted on 06/02/2008 2:28:32 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Great tagline!!!! (hehehe)


2,132 posted on 06/02/2008 3:29:08 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I guess when you make deals with or sell your soul to the devil, anything is possible!!!! THAT explains all the “hope” and “seeing dead people” that racist has!!!!


2,133 posted on 06/02/2008 3:32:13 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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