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France relaxes its old wine rules to fight off New World challenge
The Times ^ | 5/30/2008 | Charles Bremner and Marie Tourres

Posted on 05/29/2008 9:01:10 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: Tamar1973

Actually French Pinot Noir is a better value than domestic. I am afraid that I’ve been priced out or Oregon Pinot. And Burgundian charodonnay is hard to beat.


21 posted on 05/29/2008 10:15:38 PM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: Defiant
I think the Reinheitsgebot covers what is German "wine", which by the way, is still soooooo good, and needing NO bailout unlike a certain country to the West of Germany...
22 posted on 05/29/2008 10:37:03 PM PDT by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: bruinbirdman

At least Champagne is from a clearly French region, not a German wine from a region that was historically German.


23 posted on 05/29/2008 11:03:41 PM PDT by Defiant (McCain's big vein drains mainly from his brain.)
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To: vetvetdoug
"I like an Irish economical wine, Wild Irish Rose. Its cheap, I can swallow it, and is good cold or warm and has the same effect."

The traditional wino's wine.

24 posted on 05/30/2008 12:45:50 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: bruinbirdman
Sound like a marketing opportunity. Simply regulate (I know, you hate the word, but this is a necessity for credibility and it can be a private organization amongst the vineyards) that vineyards need to label the the method they are utilizing for a particular wine. A single vineyard can produce both "traditional" and "new world" varieties and expand their product line and hopefully market share.

Just yappin'... I dunno - I just drink the stuff. By the gallons...

25 posted on 05/30/2008 3:36:08 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: vetvetdoug

Well de gustibus non est disputandem (trans. if you don’t like it, go ahead and spit), but if I were a philanthropist billionaire, I’d invite you to a tour of any (and all) of the “strade del vino” wine roads of Italy...

http://www.lavinium.com.

Happiness and 150 kgs more on the waistline guaranteed (for in Italy at least, where there is wine there is food).

And unless terribly unlucky, you’ll have none of the headaches those new-fangled French wines with their funky ingredients will cause.

The first thing Pope Benedict said after he was elected: “I am a humble worker of the Lord’s vineyard”... the poetic co-relation between good and proper winemaking and life is astounding. And the fact that the French will allow “cheating” to recoup market share tells a long and very sad story about their so-called enlightnement (Liberté, fraternité et avidité! But its best talked about over a Brunello or a Barolo!

Salute!


26 posted on 05/30/2008 3:48:06 AM PDT by Mancolicani
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To: Grizzled Bear

About a year ago Yellow Tail had a billboard up along my route to work with a beautiful young woman holding the bottle. She was pretty apparently of mixed European/African ancestry.

I thought this was absolutely hilarious, but it wasn’t up long and was taken down before I could get a picture.

However, I recently found the image on the web. Here’s a link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/feministmd/370253585/in/set-72157594501605979/


27 posted on 05/30/2008 4:12:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Defiant

For several centuries now Alsace has been French or German depending on who won the last war.

It is only fair to point out that while most Alsatians speak German, they consider themeselves to be French patriots.


28 posted on 05/30/2008 4:14:43 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

Sorry. It seems most Alsatians now speak French.


29 posted on 05/30/2008 4:28:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Neanderthal
the traditional wino's wine.

I take that complement. I represent that remark...

30 posted on 05/30/2008 5:25:01 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Neidermeyer

You are correct! French have been using American rootstocks for over 100 years. America to the rescue again :-)


31 posted on 05/30/2008 6:17:37 AM PDT by Bahama Mama (FReeper in Paradise)
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To: Cacique

The problem being is that Malbec has gone up in price thanks to the weak dollar and high demand in the US (you can usually find several Malbecs on the winelists of the major US steakhouses these days). Nevertheless, a $15 Malbec Reserva is a much better value than a $40 Bordeaux or Napa Cabernet for that matter.


32 posted on 05/30/2008 10:35:06 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Aussie wine = "Roo Juice" = Fruit bombs. Perfect for the palate of most Americans, but NOT for me.

The closet I ever get to fruity reds is an occassional Beaujolais Nouveau. For Cabs, Merlots, and Malbecs that can actually stand up to heavier foods, I still content that Chile and Argentina present the best values.

New Zealand has some OUTSTANDING Savignon Blanc. May I recommend Jackson Estates?

33 posted on 05/30/2008 10:38:01 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Sherman Logan
Yep, the French have been highly successful at stamping out minority languages, particularly since Napoleon's reforms of the educational system, and French cultural policy going back to the Louis XIV.

Very few people even speak Catalan/Occitan in SW France anymore, whereas in Spanish Catalonia, that is all they speak outside of Barcelona as an everyday language.

34 posted on 05/30/2008 10:40:05 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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