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NRA gives endorsement to Schweitzer Montana, Donkey

There's no compromise with Amendments, only a new Amendment. See Prohibition.

The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment

Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]

1 posted on 05/28/2008 4:15:33 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The NRA and other gun groups could learn something from the horse industry.

Idiot analogy.

Since when is there anything about horses in the "Bill of Rights"?

2 posted on 05/28/2008 4:21:19 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: neverdem

Wow! What a nitwit. He’s more than welcome to voluntarily give up his as he climbs on to the cattle car.


3 posted on 05/28/2008 4:23:07 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: neverdem
If Second Amendment absolutists keep standing up and daring others to pry their guns from their "cold, dead fingers," eventually somebody's going to do it.

You talk the talk, Mr. Eblen. Do you walk the walk?

Molon labe!

4 posted on 05/28/2008 4:27:04 PM PDT by holymoly
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To: neverdem
Not what I want to see from someone living in KY. Criminals will get guns no matter what laws we pass or what compromises are made. Period. They do not obey laws, why would they obey gun laws? They do not obey the gun laws already on the books, they will find ways around new laws too.

The danger lies in an unarmed America! unable to protect itself.

5 posted on 05/28/2008 4:29:01 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: neverdem
I don't know whether the American Hunters & Shooters Association is a good organization or a bad one.

Translation: "I'm an idiot who doesn't want to research any facts that might get in the way of my feelings."

7 posted on 05/28/2008 4:31:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Libs would prefer that we outlaw them so that their favorite needy group, criminals, won’t have to risk their lives to rob and rape the rest of the population.


8 posted on 05/28/2008 4:32:21 PM PDT by onevoter
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High-profile deaths of horses in Thoroughbred racing and eventing have created some public backlash against those sports. Rather than stonewall, though, horse industry leaders are aggressively working to make their sports safer. They love horses, sure, but they also realize that their sports could live or die with public opinion.

Firearm manufacturers endeavor to make safe products. When they have discovered unsafe defects in their existing products, they have sought to correct them. The vast majority of firearms-related injuries and fatalities are the result of either deliberate or reckless action. The way to prevent such injuries and fatalities is to lock up the people who would cause them. If someone shoots bullets skyward on New Years Eve, prosecute the person. I've never heard pro-gun person defend such conduct. On the other hand, some people think that any gun which could be used to shoot a robber without having first spent 30 minutes fumbling with a lock is "unsafe". Of course, in their eyes, the real danger with such guns isn't that they'll wrongfully be used to shoot innocent people--it's that they'll be used to further compound the unfairly shabby treatment received by most criminals.

9 posted on 05/28/2008 4:33:58 PM PDT by supercat
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“The no-compromise crowd has kept law enforcement agencies from having some tools they need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. And that has led to some over-reaching, such as when police in New Orleans illegally seized hundreds of guns after Hurricane Katrina.”

Yeah, the NRA and RKBA crowd is responsible for the illegal behaviour of the NOPD. Come to think of it, it was no doubt the RKBA folks who were responsible for those NO police officers who joined in the looting.


10 posted on 05/28/2008 4:34:01 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: neverdem
National Rifle Association's hard-line views

Uh... most of the people I know who do not like the NRA do not like it because it is NOT HARD-LINE ENOUGH.

11 posted on 05/28/2008 4:34:42 PM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger (bang!)
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Without some intelligent compromises, each new tragedy, like the Virginia Tech or Columbine massacres, will prompt more emotional calls for banning guns.

The problem, Tommy boy, is that even WITH some "intelligent" compromises, you will still get the same leftie whining emotionalism. The instant you give an inch, the tyrants and would be masters will start all over again wanting more "reasonable" gun control laws.

Then, when you get another Virginia Tech because you have disarmed more victims, the lefties will say: "Tom you said there would be no more VT's if we let you off with so little gun control. YOU LIED, and got all those people killed, YOU LIED, YOU CRIMINAL, we have to take ALL your guns."

Enjoy your visit from the jackboots Tommy.

12 posted on 05/28/2008 4:35:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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It would be good if this guy moves to an area with no internet.


13 posted on 05/28/2008 4:36:00 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: neverdem
If Second Amendment absolutists keep standing up and daring others to pry their guns from their "cold, dead fingers," eventually somebody's going to do it.

"Second Amendment absolutists?" Hey, Tom, as a vital part of the Constitution, the Second Amendment is the "Law of the Land." And yes, when it comes to the Constitution, I am an "absolutist" - I will accept no substitute for the Rule of Law. Unfortunately, it sounds to me like ol' Tom is an advocate for undermining the Rule of Law.

A word of advise: if you don't like the Constitution, Tom, feel free to try to amend it (lawfully, as specified by the Constitution itself - not via liberal activists on the bench). Until then, go fly a kite...

14 posted on 05/28/2008 4:40:20 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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IF our sorry government would prosecute and execute when murder, rape or other violent crimes were committed, we would have very few murders committed with guns.

Laws unenforced are worthless! There's no need for any more laws on the books that are not enforced. The REAL reason they want our guns is so they can control us.

17 posted on 05/28/2008 4:46:00 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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With 20,000+ gun laws on the books maybe we need to compromise a little more </sarcasm>

Eblen is a D.S.!

21 posted on 05/28/2008 4:52:29 PM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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The no-compromise crowd has kept law enforcement agencies from having some tools they need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. And that has led to some over-reaching, such as when police in New Orleans illegally seized hundreds of guns after Hurricane Katrina.

According to Tom, it's our fault that the gun banners confiscated guns in New Orleans. What kind of faulty logic is needed to come to that conclusion?

It's also interesting that Tom calls for gun owners to "compromise" away their civil rights, yet no suggestion of the gun grabbers compromising away stupid gun laws or restrictions in any way.

22 posted on 05/28/2008 4:52:43 PM PDT by RJL
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If Second Amendment absolutists keep standing up and daring others to pry their guns from their "cold, dead fingers," eventually somebody's going to do it.

You're welcome to give it a try.

Don't think it'll quite work out the way you expect though Tommy.
23 posted on 05/28/2008 4:57:46 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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that we need some intelligent compromises

************* ANTI GUN ALERT ! *********************

25 posted on 05/28/2008 5:08:31 PM PDT by TYVets (Elect Governor Palin President of the United States of America)
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>The no-compromise crowd has kept law enforcement agencies from having some tools they need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people.<

Firearm registration has not aided the police in solving a single crime. Is this one of the ‘tools’ he’s referring to?


28 posted on 05/28/2008 5:29:48 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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I believe just the opposite is true

This is an exact admission that, like many other left wing mantras, opposition to gun ownership is a belief system.

32 posted on 05/28/2008 6:10:59 PM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi is an anti-American traitor.)
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"If Second Amendment absolutists keep standing up and daring others to pry their guns from their "cold, dead fingers," eventually somebody's going to do it."

...or die trying -- lots and lots of 'em...

36 posted on 05/28/2008 7:35:46 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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