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Marine heads to trial on obstruction charges in Haditha case [Lt Grayson court martial]
Associated Press via Mercury News ^ | May 28, 2008 | Chelsea J. Carter

Posted on 05/28/2008 3:33:36 AM PDT by RedRover

SAN DIEGO—A Marine intelligence officer heads to court Wednesday to answer charges of obstruction of justice and making false statements during an investigation into the killings of 24 Iraqis.

The court-martial of 1st Lt. Andrew Grayson is the first case to come to trial in the biggest U.S. criminal case involving civilian deaths to come out of the Iraq war.

Authorities maintain eight Marines killed the Iraqis shortly after a roadside bomb hit a convoy, killing the driver of a Humvee and wounding two Marines.

Grayson of Springboro, Ohio, was not present at the scene of the killings on Nov. 19, 2005, in Haditha, but is accused of telling a sergeant to delete photographs of the dead from his digital camera.

Investigators allege after the bombing, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and a squad member allegedly shot five men by a car at the scene. Wuterich then allegedly ordered his men into several houses, where they cleared rooms with grenades and gunfire, killing unarmed civilians in the process.

Charges against all but three Marines, including Grayson, have been dropped.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmartial; grayson; haditha; usmc
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To: RedRover

GREAT news! Thanks for the “heads up.”


241 posted on 06/02/2008 8:18:24 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: RedRover

Outstanding, Red!!

One fourth of the way to Lt. Grayson being fully exonerated and HE WILL BE!


242 posted on 06/02/2008 8:21:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

BUMP!!!
Next, the rest of the bogus charges must go!


243 posted on 06/02/2008 8:22:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

Great news!!!!!!!!!


244 posted on 06/02/2008 8:30:52 PM PDT by ticked
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To: RedRover
In a courtroom shocker today, military judge Major Brian Kasprzyk dismissed one of four charges pending against Lt. Andrew Grayson. The charge dismissed is obstructing justice.

WHAT????!!!!!

Isn't this the "crux" of the prosecution's case against 1st Lt. Grayon? Hallelujah! Throw the rest of the extranious "crap" out. It was only put out there to try to convict him of obstruction.
245 posted on 06/02/2008 8:42:23 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover; Girlene; Lancey Howard; xzins; jazusamo
The charge dismissed is obstructing justice.

Three charges still stand against the lieutenant: two charges of making a false official statement and one charge of attempting to fraudulently leave the Marine Corps.

Woo hoo !!

Great news, Red.

So he is NOT GUILTY of Obstructing Justice. That is the spec of ordering Laughner to delete the photos from his laptop, right?.
Without the charge on the pictures of Laughner's computer, the other charges of False Official Statements thereto are moot -- they are invalid.

Now to blow them out on that ridiculous charge of trying to get out of the Marines illegally. Then I hope he can recover damages for false arrest (he was held) and misprision of felony and acts under colour of authority. Yeah, I know -- fat chance!

246 posted on 06/02/2008 8:49:53 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover

Excellent good news! Thanks for keeping us posted.


247 posted on 06/02/2008 9:14:21 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Soldier somewhere near Sadr City.)
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To: RedRover

Thanks for the summary.


248 posted on 06/02/2008 9:14:24 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: brityank; 4woodenboats
So he is NOT GUILTY of Obstructing Justice.

It appears this case has fallen apart. From what little I've seen reported about "lying" to investigators......I think he told the truth. The pictures did not exist; they were deleted; end of story.

Fraudulently trying to seperate from the Marines......ummmm... they granted him his discharge papers then took them back.

Dismising the obstructing justice charge is a HUGE deal, imo. It almost equates to a Matlock moment.
249 posted on 06/02/2008 9:16:26 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene
It almost equates to a Matlock moment.

Think we should ping jude? ;^)

250 posted on 06/02/2008 9:23:23 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank; jude24
"It almost equates to a Matlock moment. "

Think we should ping jude? ;^)

Okay! Hey, jude, pinging you to a Matlock moment. (However, we Freepers have no idea why. If we did, we'd take credit!) :-)
251 posted on 06/02/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: brityank; Girlene
It almost equates to a Matlock moment.

Think we should ping jude? ;^)

I'm wondering if the only reason the judge didn't throw the rest of charges out is that he can't wait to hear the prosecution explain the whopper about handing Grayson his discharge papers and then filing charges against him for signing them.

We might have to add Rockford. This sounds like something right out of a Rockford File.

252 posted on 06/02/2008 9:39:18 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org freeevanvela.com)
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To: Girlene
LOL.

Now go here and see what I told MU. I think I need some speed-up pills!

253 posted on 06/02/2008 9:41:35 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 4woodenboats; Girlene
This sounds like something right out of a Rockford File.

Or maybe Joe Gannon.       ;^)
Dum. De dum dum.

254 posted on 06/02/2008 9:45:27 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: 4woodenboats; brityank; Girlene

I can’t believe the charge wasn’t thrown out on the discharge matter after a panel member asked LtCol Gillan if anyone told Lt Grayson not to check out till everything was settled and the Col said no. That seems to me to be a clear cut reason to dismiss the charge.


255 posted on 06/02/2008 10:06:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

YES, YES, YES!!!! Now let’s drop the rest of the charges and let Lt. Grayson get on with his life!!


256 posted on 06/02/2008 10:10:17 PM PDT by Semper Fi Mom (Mother of a Marine and proud of it!)
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To: RedRover

EXCELLENT news!! Now for the other three!!


257 posted on 06/02/2008 10:43:17 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/peoples-information-support-team/ -JOIN US!-We're PIST!)
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To: 4woodenboats
"This sounds like something right out of a Rockford File."

I'm thinking A-Team -- "I love it when a plan comes together."

258 posted on 06/02/2008 10:45:12 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/peoples-information-support-team/ -JOIN US!-We're PIST!)
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To: RedRover; Lancey Howard; brityank; Girlene; jazusamo; jude24

Threw out the obstruction charge!!!

The obstruction charge was the whole point. The false statement charges stemmed from the obstruction charge. If he hadn’t been charged with obstructing justice, then he would have been charged with stating that he’d deleted pictures. It was evident that the pictures had been deleted and that he’d been truthful about it.

Wasn’t there a comment in the Art 32 by someone to that effect that he couldn’t wait to see how they tried to prove the lying charge?

The big question in my mind is will we hear the trial judge’s reasoning for dropping the obstruction charges.

As always, there’s no way that the discharge from the Marines issue should be attached to this case. It is a separate case.


259 posted on 06/03/2008 3:57:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: jazusamo; All

That was (partly) why it was shocking.

Defense attorney Joe Casa introduced a motion to dismiss the fraudulent discharge. The judge denied it, but said he had a motion of his own.

The reason for the move to dismiss was based on procedural issues. We’ll have more on it later.

Whatever the reason for the dismissal, it knocks the legs out from under the prosecution’s case.

It’s possible that the defense could wrap up today but I imagine the trial will go at least through tomorrow.


260 posted on 06/03/2008 4:38:42 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops,org)
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