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Truth or Consequences - What if a Candidate Spoke the Truth
NYT ^ | May 28th, 2008 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 05/27/2008 10:09:10 PM PDT by The_Republican

Imagine for a minute, just a minute, that someone running for president was able to actually tell the truth, the real truth, to the American people about what would be the best — I mean really the best — energy policy for the long-term economic health and security of our country. I realize this is a fantasy, but play along with me for a minute. What would this mythical, totally imaginary, truth-telling candidate say?

For starters, he or she would explain that there is no short-term fix for gasoline prices. Prices are what they are as a result of rising global oil demand from India, China and a rapidly growing Middle East on top of our own increasing consumption, a shortage of “sweet” crude that is used for the diesel fuel that Europe is highly dependent upon and our own neglect of effective energy policy for 30 years.

Cynical ideas, like the McCain-Clinton summertime gas-tax holiday, would only make the problem worse, and reckless initiatives like the Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep offer to subsidize gasoline for three years for people who buy its gas guzzlers are the moral equivalent of tobacco companies offering discounted cigarettes to teenagers.

I can’t say it better than my friend Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics, did in a Memorial Day essay in The Washington Post: “So Dodge wants to sell you a car you don’t really want to buy, that is not fuel-efficient, will further damage our environment, and will further subsidize oil states, some of which are on the other side of the wars we’re currently fighting. ... The planet be damned, troops be forgotten, the economy be ignored: buy a Dodge.”

No, our mythical candidate would say the long-term answer is to go exactly other way: guarantee people a high price of gasoline — forever.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: truthordare

1 posted on 05/27/2008 10:09:12 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican

Why should a candidate have to speak the truth, NO ONE at the New Yawk Times does.


2 posted on 05/27/2008 10:13:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: The_Republican
Gee Thomas,

Thanks for deciding in your infinite wisdom what things should cost. And by the way: stick it in your pompous ear.

3 posted on 05/27/2008 10:15:39 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: The_Republican

Socialists are NEVER honest about their agenda for dependence on big government.

Socialism doesn’t win in an honest debate. It is unwelcome in the marketplace of ideas. So they cannot be truthful.


4 posted on 05/27/2008 10:16:52 PM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: The_Republican

Once I saw “NEW YORK TIMES”...the irony about “speaking the truth” dawned on me.


5 posted on 05/27/2008 10:21:09 PM PDT by max americana
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To: The_Republican
Ultimately, we need to move our entire fleet to plug-in electric cars.

And beef up our electric grid to replace all energy consumed by cars with what? Coal? Nuclear? How do you drive from NY to LA on a battery powered car? How do you drive from NY to Philadelphia? Are truckers going to plug in their 18 wheelers too?

Maybe we should stop producing electricity with natural gas and oil and save that for motor fuel.

6 posted on 05/27/2008 10:23:11 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: The_Republican

The author is quite correct (unusually for him) about one thing. If you wish to reduce the use of a resource like oil or gasoline, by far the most efficient way to do so is to increase its price.

Of course, liberals like him are also anxious to prevent development of any of the possible realistic alternative energy resources.


7 posted on 05/27/2008 10:24:39 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Minn
How do you drive from NY to LA on a battery powered car?

You don't. You make the trip in a sleeper car on board the clean, quiet, and marvelously efficient super express bullet train — powered by nuclear-generated electricity. The twelve- hour trip affords you ample time to visit the gourmet restaurant in the dining car and enjoy cocktails in the club car before turning in for a solid eight hours of sleep in a real bed with real sheets.

8 posted on 05/27/2008 10:38:13 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: weegee

Armey’s Axiom. Conservative Republicans are always worried the public won’t understand what they’re trying to get accomplished, but liberal Democrats are always worried the public will find out what they themselves are up to.


9 posted on 05/27/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: The_Republican

Ron Paul spoke his mind, and got denounced as a lunatic.


10 posted on 05/27/2008 11:14:36 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Obama thinks he is telling the truth... he sees a grand utopia....


11 posted on 05/27/2008 11:16:09 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: glorgau

That’s kinda ‘cause he is.


12 posted on 05/27/2008 11:35:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: The_Republican

Not going to happen, lies are the currency of politics. And every politician, whether they do it for personal gain or “For the Greater Good” lies out of necessity.

You should never take a politicians word, it’s a coin so devalued as to be worthless.


13 posted on 05/28/2008 12:51:49 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: B-Chan
You make the trip in a sleeper car on board the clean, quiet, and marvelously efficient super express bullet train

Does the train have a petting zoo with unicorns?

14 posted on 05/28/2008 1:13:55 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: glorgau
Ron Paul spoke his mind, and got denounced as a lunatic.

Which he is, as proven empathetically by his absurd comments on 9/11 and Islam's war on us.

15 posted on 05/28/2008 1:17:20 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: The_Republican

Friedman is not a traditional liberal. He is a real patriot. His arguments are always well reasoned and worth listening to. The amount of money we are sending to our oil-producing enemies every month has got to stop.


16 posted on 05/28/2008 3:38:44 AM PDT by 1955Ford
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To: B-Chan

“...marvelously efficient super express bullet train...”

Maybe we can enlist Mussolini to get the trains running on time.


17 posted on 05/28/2008 5:29:42 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: 1955Ford

India and China and Europe will continue to fund our enemies in oil-producing nations.

The oil isn’t evil. The leaders there are.

Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.

End the evil. Not the oil.

Want to know why the French, the Germans, and the Russians would not come onboard for the war against Iraq? Saddam paid them off.


18 posted on 05/28/2008 7:29:40 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: Minn
"You make the trip in a sleeper car on board the clean, quiet, and marvelously efficient super express bullet train."

Does the train have a petting zoo with unicorns?

No. The bullet trains currently running in Japan, France, Germany, Belgium, and China don't either.

19 posted on 05/28/2008 8:21:02 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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