Posted on 05/27/2008 5:44:17 PM PDT by Chickensoup
Uh. Patents merely give the assignee the right to prohibit someone else from selling something. And they are public, open records.
I did this to a Ford Pinto station wagon in the 70's. All it takes is a container rigged so that the vacuum pulls the liquid from the bottom of a gallon jug. with a few other changes, I did realize about a 4 mpg improvement. I can't remember how I arranged for the drip. The whole thing couldn't have cost me more than about ten bucks. It definitely needed a hydrocarbon liquid mixed with the water to make it work. At the time I switched to a small molecule triple refined oil and changed the carburator jets. The original set up on the engine amounted to a detuning. I think I also needed to advance the spark. It was a long time ago when engines were much easier to get into. I can't remember all the details but it was fun trying to squeeze a little more out of each gallon.
I have actually done some experiments with hydroxy generators, and they do actually improve mileage, but not by much, certainly not the 25% advertised.
Also, The one that I tested kept blowing the top off the bubbler when starting hot and while residual hydroxy was still in the system. It made a loud POP!! and then the water from the bubbler would leak out. Not serious, but the generator would have to be shut off due to the explosion hazard it now posed, and it became too much of a hassle.
It seemed like a good idea.
“In many cases such as mud and snow, narrow tires perform better in limited traction situations.
Something I learned from the oldtimers in snow country.”
Old timers on crack.
Wouldnt I have to purchase narrower rims too?
“This is a finely tuned water injection system unlike any other, giving atomization of water and air before going into the engine where it is further atomized, here in turn it collides with the fuel molecules making a highly explosive mixture and expanding the fuel.”
H2O is a byproduct of combustion and it sure as hell is not going to make the fuel more explosive. As a matter of fact you want a less explosive fuel, thats why we add stuff to gas to get higher octane ratings.
“As this mixture goes into the combustion chamber a marvelous thing happens - a chain reaction. All carbon starts immediately being removed inside the engine to the same state it was in when it was new.”
Liquid water will remove carbon build up. You can do this by pulling a vacuum hose and sucking up some, or pore it into the crab. You don't need to do this often, and a well tuned engine running good gas (with detergents) shouldn't get all that much carbon build up. As for their “chain reaction” line, this should be yet another BS red flag.
“making in essence a half steam engine, half gas engine”
Conservation of energy is a physical law that can not be ignored. It takes heat to make the steam. This very same heat would have been converted into mechanical energy in the piston. At best, you looses some power because of the noncombustible water absorbing heat energy.
Keep your money, this is a scam.
http://www.aquatune.com/overview.html
That would depend, Your tire supplier may be able to supply you with that info.
The link I posted claimed to more than double the mileage on a van they were testing. That kind of improvement might be worth the hassle but the kit is pretty dang expensive and your results are probably far more typical but if you even improved your mileage 20% with your kit you’d think the auto companies would be all over it. Certainly they could iron out the bugs for that much gain.
Don’t try to use logic and science on these people. One post here the guy hooked up one of these scam machines and then tuned the car and got better milage. Go figure!!
Go buy a $100,000 Mercedes that gets 100mpg.
You will be saving money!
Up here in Alaska on my way home its a two lane hiway that is posted 55, some dumbnut in a beater p/u probably a Ford was driving 40mph, there is no place to pass so he backed up traffic for ten miles before he turned off into a gas station that was selling gas for a nickel less than in town, as I drive by I saw at least two cars pull in behind him and I swear the drivers were going to beat the pulp out of him..Morale is, drive the speed limit or stay off the road, if you can’t afford the gas get a bike or a horse.
I drive a concrete mixer and if I ever see somebody trying to draft off of me I am spinning my drum backwards. Lets see how that looks with concrete on your new $50,000 SUV econobox that gets 35+ miles per gallon.
Too many people are panicking and not taking action and driving slower will get you hurt I guarantee it.
thank you all. This was something WAY out of my league and I needed some perspective.
I will stop being a low-flying rocket on the highway and go back to the 55mph of carter days. I will stop acting like a bunney and have smooth starts. I will drive slowly on my half mile driveway and avoid the ruts instead a bouncing joyfully.
You ever lived in snow country?
Yep.
All of these things are tweaky. If you want higher HP, advance the timing more BTDC....and then...maybe you can use other stop-gaps like water injection to keep it from pinging.
Why folks think that just one little magic pill is all it takes....especially when the OBD computer is fighting every change you make....
Drive two-footed, with one on the gas and the other on the accelerator...that’ll cut your mileage.
Yikes!!! Two feet on the acceleratorgas thingy will definitely get you there in a hurry!
But you'll write in someone who isn't running?
Brilliant!
Now if you drive to save gas you will save gas. That is how people end up saving. They drive to save. It works. But I would go crazy. And if I ever come up behind you and you are doing 55 on an interstate you will dirty your pants when these light off.
On order for all the slow pokes and chicks in the left lane on the cell phone gabbing along at 55.
A fitting solution to the occasional problem, some would say....
Lets see how that looks with concrete on your new $50,000 SUV econobox that gets 35+ miles per gallon.
I would think that the additional weight of the concrete, not to mention the aerodynamic drag, would have an adverse effect on the mileage of said econobox.
Personally, I don't think it's wise to draft a cement truck, or any other vehicle that you can't see through or around.
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