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To: ARCADIA

Yeah. Someone has to say at least that what they expected was wrong. No one to my knowledge has done that.

Everone who was arguing for war said that we will be greeted with rice and flowers. We will be greeted as liberators. OK. I don’t care if they were wrong about that, but someone has to stand up and say we were wrong about that. That, I care about.

Second, I remember that the SECOND year when President Bush wanted war funding, everyone was taken aback by the amount a little bit. I believe it was 75 or 80 Billion.

I remember Trent Lott giving interviews and saying THIS IS IT. That he would NOT agree to fund after this.

Even at the time, Iraq was supposed to pay for everything. The contracts resulting from that were supposed to be more profitable than the cost.

I am not saying that no one can make mistakes or estimates can be wrong. However, when you are wrong, wouldn’t it be better to admit you were wrong? Isn’t it someones responsibility to accept the blame? Or being honest about failure is aiding and abetting the enemy?

Instead, now they say you don’t have strong enough belly for war and that’s how wars are supposed to go. It cost much more to fight other Wars of 20th century and many more lives. Just deal with it.

I am for FINISHING the job and hopefully McCain can finish the job by 2013.

However, I am NOT willing to forget the promise of flowers, and rice, Iraq paying for the cost of War and how it would be over soon that there would be no need for funding for third year.

Now people are supporting starting another war with Iran. Based on similar logic and similar evidence and similar fears. One job is not finished yet, and lets go and mess with even more bigger badder enemy.

Can we be sure about evidence this time before we invite waves of Mullahs wearing suicide belts to crah into our troops? Or is that unpatriotic?


79 posted on 05/27/2008 6:03:14 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: The_Republican
We know the people that don't support this war.

They're the same people that need to apologize to our troops when they returned home from Vietnam.

They spit on our Veterans calling them baby killers smashing raw eggs on their uniforms that were worn proudly representing the sacrifice they made for freedom in the world and our country.

Even though I pray that these poor enabling schmuck bastards might see the light I wish they would stop supporting Al Qaeda and Radical Islam and end giving them an endless amount of tacit approval.

84 posted on 05/27/2008 6:44:07 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: The_Republican
I am NOT willing to forget the promise of flowers, and rice, Iraq paying for the cost of War and how it would be over soon that there would be no need for funding for third year.

Exactly how I feel. I supported the war, overcome by Colin Powell's presentation to the UN. I thought an attack, while not imminent, was possible.

Nothing -- NOTHING -- will reconcile me to the fact the whole thing was a huge miscalculation. The LIVES LOST or RUINED. The MONEY it cost, is costing.

Even to the poor Iraqis ... What are we going to say to them when we leave - "Sorry that didn't work out for you - so long and good luck"!?

Unlike you, I can't promise to support McCain. Like the conservative political philosopher Fukayama said

"In my own thinking since I have to vote in this next election, I personally actually don't want to see a Republican re-elected because I have a general view of the way democratic processes should work and if your party is responsible for a big policy failure, you shouldn't be rewarded by being re-elected."

88 posted on 05/27/2008 7:41:28 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: The_Republican
Sorry, I had to send a follow up post.

I hate to say this, it probably seems inhuman - but the MONEY Iraq is costing, is what's bugging me the most. Iraq is like a bleeding sore on the USA - money we could be investing to confront other long-term threats - like China, India, the elusive, but always-just-around-the-corner "peak oil." (It will get here soon enough, I know how to add and subtract.)

As for all the fire-breathers about Iran - well - the Iraq War certainly strenghtened the Iranian position, didn't it? Why should we be paying any attention to the war-mongering position?

91 posted on 05/27/2008 7:50:55 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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