McCain found his domestic crisis in bogus global warming

Daily Herald ^ | May 27, 2008

[PROCON]

"Instead of idly debating the precise extent of global warming, ... we need to deal with the central facts of rising temperatures, rising waters, and all the endless troubles that global warming will bring. We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great. The most relevant question now is whether our own government is equal to the challenge."

With that, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain threw his support - again - to a complex government program to reduce carbon emissions. He claims he can do this, without causing economic hardship, by using the power of the free market. As The Wall Street Journal commented, "His plan is 'market based' insofar as it requires an expensive, invasive government bureaucracy to interfere with the market."

[PROCON]

Government will make arbitrary decisions about how much CO2 will be permitted in a thousand different situations. I can only begin to imagine the bureaucracy that will be required.

And I'm voting for McCain?!

[PROCON]

Ping!

[DManA]

You can't command or bribe basic science to pull desired rabbits out of hats. Anyone proposing that has no understanding of how science works.

We will also establish clear standards in government-funded research,

[cripplecreek]

Boy I miss the sense of Duncan Hunter on this one too. He basically stated that the climate changes, it’s what it’s always done and there’s no evidence that we can or should try to affect it.

[massgopguy]

Will someone please drop McCain off at the Dog Track with a roll of quarters.

[TLI]

In Islamic extremism, McCain has his foreign affairs crisis. In global warming, he has his domestic crisis.

Domestic crisis? Globull warming? Hey Juan, what about that $4.00 gallon gas? Not "cool" enough for you?

[ETL]

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html

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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation periods. Now look very carefully at this relationship between temps and CO2 levels and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the graph indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000 year period actually lagged behind temperature increases ...by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these 4 past glaciations. Yet Gore dishonestly and continually claims otherwise.-ETL

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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present.":
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M

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FWD:

So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

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FWD:

Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

[Mamzelle]

Here is where we'll find out how much support McCain has in the House and Senate from conservatives--and we conservatives will find out whether we can oppose McCain, the GOP nom for prez.

It will also make a lot of conservatives wonder if we'd be better off with Obama trying to force this &^%# on the US from the WH--rather than McCain. We'd be better energized to fight a liberal.

Like I've said in many posts, McCain has been the single most effective anti-conservative legislator in my lifetime.

[dan1123]

I think we’re all forgetting the first rule of political solutions to problems. If there is a problem, wait until it’s already getting better and then put your policy in place, taking credit for the improvement.

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

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[sergeantdave]

“Instead of idly debating the precise extent of global warming... and all the endless troubles that global warming will bring.”

Idly debating? Mr. McCain, it appears, doesn’t have the intellectual acumen to look at evidence before deciding upon an action. He has “feelings” that something must be done.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Kenny Bunk]

Where, o where is the GOP official who can stand up and say that anthropogenic Global Warming is simply bullshiite? A little PowerPoint of the Milankovitch Cycle? Sun activity? Come on, gang, a little 8th Grade General Science would surely go a long way toward adjusting the public attitude ... even in a country that voted 50percent for Al Gore.

The down'n'dirty gut basics of climate change aren't really advanced science ... more like blacksmithery ... the principles of which were established in the 19thC with the calculations of Milankovitch. Throw in a bit of sunspottery, and you have the guts of global warming. If a guy working alone in 19thC Serbia could figure this out, why can't an American Republican, who undoubted lives near a library and who probably can even send an e-mail?

The real question toward which government funded scientists ought to be turning their feeble leftist minds is Global Cooling. When the normal operation of the various cycles is taken in to account, the Earth should be warmer. It's not. Hello?

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx !

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !