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FLDS Criminal Cases Building
deseret news ^ | May 27, 2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 05/27/2008 12:30:59 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland

SAN ANGELO, Texas — While the custody fight for the hundreds of children seized from the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch has devolved into legal chaos, a criminal probe is quietly moving forward. "The investigation is continuing," Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange said in an e-mail to the Deseret News. "When we have completed our investigation, we will present our case report to the prosecutors for their action."

An Austin appellate court's ruling that Texas child welfare authorities overstepped their authority in removing all of the children from the FLDS property has no bearing on the law enforcement investigation, Mange said. More than 400 boxes of evidence taken under the search warrants that were executed in the early days of the raid are still being examined.

Utah and Arizona authorities remain hopeful that they may be able to see some of that evidence to assist in their ongoing criminal probes into the FLDS Church and its leader, Warren Jeffs.

"We know there's going to be all kinds of stuff," Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff told the Deseret News on Monday. "The photographs, I think, are just the beginning."

Shurtleff was referring to a series of bombshell photos put into evidence during a custody hearing on Friday that show Jeffs kissing what Texas Child Protective Services lawyers said was a 12-year-old girl "how a husband kisses a wife." That hearing resumes here today. A handwritten note on the photos indicates they were taken in July 2006, a month before Jeffs was arrested outside Las Vegas. Jeffs was later convicted in Utah of rape as an accomplice for performing a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin.

In Arizona, Jeffs is facing charges of sexual misconduct and incest as an accomplice. He is also facing a federal grand jury indictment for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, stemming from his time on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.

During a court hearing for Jeffs in Kingman, Ariz., earlier this month, the Arizona Attorney General's Office raised the possibility that evidence seized from the raid on the YFZ Ranch might be used to pursue evidence against him.

"We have not yet provided anything to out-of-state investigators but expect that we will," Mange wrote.

Lawyers for the FLDS Church have objected to the search warrants that were served, noting that it appears the raid on the YFZ Ranch was sparked by a hoax call. Authorities have dubbed a 33-year-old Colorado woman a "person of interest" in their investigation into the calls to family crisis hotlines, in which someone claiming to be a 16-year-old girl named "Sarah" said she was pregnant and in an abusive marriage to 49-year-old Dale Evans Barlow.

Barlow, a convicted sex offender who lives in Colorado City, Ariz., was questioned but not arrested. A warrant for him is not being pursued, and lawyers for the FLDS Church accuse Texas authorities of knowing that he wasn't on the YFZ Ranch, even as they raided the compound.

"The State's actions in invading and searching a place of religious significance raises important and sensitive issues which lay (sic) at the intersection of religious liberty and the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures," Gerald Goldstein, an attorney for the FLDS Church and leaders Merril Jessop and Lyle Jeffs, wrote in court papers.

He also suggested that any evidence seized may be protected because of clergy-penitent privilege.

On the final day of the police search of the YFZ Ranch, the FBI executed a federal search warrant. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Texas will only say it is part of a "pending investigation."

A task force examining polygamy-related crimes is gearing up. Shurtleff and his counterpart, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, are scheduled to meet next month with U.S. Justice Department officials, the FBI, the U.S. attorneys for Utah, Arizona and Nevada, as well as local law enforcement and prosecutors, to coordinate efforts.

"Right now, all I'm going to say is good stuff about the feds," Shurtleff said. "We're expecting great cooperation." The task force was born out of a public feud Shurtleff and Goddard had with Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., who accused the two states of doing nothing about polygamy.

U.S. Attorney for Utah Brett Tolman told the Deseret News earlier this month that his office has tried to pursue mafia-style racketeering, corruption and child-bride trafficking cases but has been stymied by a lack of witnesses and other evidence to establish probable cause.

In San Angelo, Tom Green County prosecutors have said they are still interested in pursuing their own charges, which could include bigamy. The Texas Attorney General's Office has been named a special prosecutor for any criminal cases that may come out of the investigation.

The Mohave County, Ariz., attorney recently served a subpoena on the United Effort Plan Trust's court-appointed special fiduciary, demanding evidence seized from the Cadillac Escalade that Jeffs was riding in when he was arrested in August 2006.

The subpoenas seek iPods, CDs, notes, letters to the FLDS leader, religious papers, laptops and thumb drives by Friday. UEP fiduciary Bruce Wisan is fighting the subpoena, saying that he has a confidentiality agreement with Jeffs' defense attorneys. Copies of the evidence are in the possession of the FBI, Jeffs' defense team and Jeffrey L. Shields, the fiduciary's lawyer.

"Except for the requirements of the stipulated protective order, the fiduciary and Shields are ready, willing and able to comply with the subpoena as to all of the Escalade documents in the possession of the fiduciary," wrote Jeffrey Goldberg, another lawyer for Wisan. Wisan has served his own subpoenas on Tom Green County prosecutors in San Angelo, seeking to look at the evidence that law enforcement officers seized from the YFZ Ranch.

"Please produce all documents or tangible objects that mention or relate to possession or ownership of the structure referred to as 'The Temple,' located on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado, Texas," one subpoena said. "Please produce all documents or tangible objects that mention or relate to the funding used to acquire the YFZ Ranch located in Schleicher County, Texas."

Wisan is trying to collect on an $8.8 million default judgment against Jeffs and the FLDS Church. In 2005, the courts took control of the UEP Trust amid allegations that Jeffs and other FLDS leaders mismanaged it. The UEP Trust controls homes, businesses and property in the FLDS enclaves of Hildale, Utah; Colorado City, Ariz.; and Bountiful, British Columbia, in Canada.

The fiduciary is seeking to determine if any UEP funds paid for the YFZ Ranch.


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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
The week of the raid the US Supreme Court ruled that if the cops are executing a warrant (or a probable cause stop) and they encounter other evidence of other crimes they can collect that evidence.

The cops were operating under good faith belief that they had a valid warrant.

41 posted on 05/28/2008 8:32:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: antceecee; IIntense

Where in IIntense’s post did she talk about tampling the Constitution and/or Bill of Rights? Are YOU trying to deny some of us our 1st Amendment right to free speech when what we say doesn’t agree with your opinions?

No constitutional rights have been quashed in this case. Just for the record, the Constitution does NOT guarantee the right to give little girls to old men for ‘wives’ or to take entire families away from one father and give them to another.

The RIGHTS that concern me are those of the women and children in that sick society.


42 posted on 05/28/2008 8:41:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: SouthTexas; MizSterious; Alice in Wonderland

Apparantly CBS saw fit to not tell any lies that time. Their story was totally consistent with that of a couple of not so distant cousins whose mothers escaped, with them, from such a group.


43 posted on 05/28/2008 8:41:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: UCANSEE2

I think so too.


44 posted on 05/28/2008 8:42:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: djf

First cousin? Or those farther removed?

(And why would anyone with an OUNCE of common sense want to marry a cousin anyway?) (Cue “Dueling Banjos”....)


45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:44:35 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: Old Professer

Yes. Absolutely.


46 posted on 05/28/2008 8:44:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

48 Hours has always been a little more reliable than the rest of their news, not sure why. Their 48 Hours Mystery series has been outstanding.


47 posted on 05/28/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: Utah Girl
The F(lds) members children also have rights which have not heretofore been respecdted by F(lds) or their parents.

Time to get in tune with reality.

48 posted on 05/28/2008 8:46:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MizSterious

Yes.
First cousin.
Legal in about 20 states.


49 posted on 05/28/2008 8:47:38 AM PDT by djf
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To: antceecee
You are confused. The children are not the property of the parents to use as they please. This process balances the children's absolute rights against the parent's discretionary rights.

When people have a child custody dispute in a divorce no one goes before a jury, nor is anyone charged with a crime.

50 posted on 05/28/2008 8:50:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Colofornian
My understanding, and I haven't kept up with the latest developments, is that they are now showing that more than a quarter of the women they identified as pregnant or with children who they thought might either be minors or would have had to have been minors when they were pregnant are now listed as either adults or were of consentual age (parental consent for marriage).

I don't have the exact figure but that would still leave up to almost two dozen girls who either are pregnant minors or would have had to have been pregnant at a pre-consentual age.

Pregnancy of a minor is in itself evidence of abuse.

Of the 31 supposedly pregnant minors, at least 16 have been ruled out as adults or not actually pregnant. And if teenage pregnancy in and of itself is abuse, then why isn't CPS making wholesale raids on inner city neighborhoods?

Follow the leader. The leader, Warren Jeffs

Warren Jeffs was not present at the compound. He didn't abuse anyone there.

51 posted on 05/28/2008 9:03:16 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog

You are only partially right. He wasn’t present at the time of the raid. (He was living, um, elsewhere—the graybars hotel.) There is evidence that he HAS lived at YFZ, and some of his wives/children (in his case, some could be both) lived there, some of whom are subjects of the court’s interest in this case.


52 posted on 05/28/2008 9:16:11 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: big black dog
Warren Jeffs was not present at the compound. He didn't abuse anyone there.

The compound was been there when Jeffs still ruled the nest (pre-jail days). Jeffs as a leader has established community & compound policy, & nobody has bucked it.

Of the 31 supposedly pregnant minors, at least 16 have been ruled out as adults or not actually pregnant. And if teenage pregnancy in and of itself is abuse, then why isn't CPS making wholesale raids on inner city neighborhoods?

Because unlike the inner city, where the tendency is to have both adults & minors as the fathers of pregnant minors, the tendency for this cult is NOT to have minor teen-age males marry...in fact, many become "the lost boys."

CBS was interviewing one of them for a program last night. He said he was not allowed to date.

It's simple deductive logic: fLDS teen boys are...
...not allowed to date.
...don't marry young.
...often wind up outside the community/compound as disenfranchised & discarded as either "disruptive" to the community or are deemed as "competition" by the adult males taking on additional wives.

I guess that leaves either in-vitro fertilization or adult males. (You get to guess which).

53 posted on 05/28/2008 9:21:51 AM PDT by Colofornian (As the fLDS is now, the LDS once was. As the fLDS is now, the LDS will become)
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To: big black dog
From what I have seen they are down to 4 or 5 pregnant teenagers and ladies who have possibly had children when they were under 18. I was watching good morning America and they were talking about a school on the eastern seaboard. Gloucester high school, were there are 17 pregnant high schoolers. They were not even arguing rape and assuming rape of the teenagers, but arguing whether giving contraceptives and the pill without parental consent was appropriate. Some here would like to say just because there is likely a teenager or a handful of teenagers that are pregnant or had kids while being underage that it is clear proof of rape. I don't know how you legally jump to that conclusion.

Of course, we really don't know for sure on anything. Nor does the mob.

54 posted on 05/28/2008 9:57:53 AM PDT by commonguymd (Using the mob torch and pitchfork government lover's method of debate against them in kind.)
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To: MizSterious

Nice dodge. You’re grasping at straws using SeeBS as a “news source”. Move “evidence” I presume?


55 posted on 05/28/2008 10:05:47 AM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: SouthTexas

Oh please. If it were JUST CBS saying this, I might not take it so seriously. It’s not. Dateline (NBC), 20/20 (ABC) and almost every other news source including your no-doubt revered Fox have said the same things. Actually CBS did a pretty good job on this one, and did present the other side of the argument. Did you see it? If not, then maybe you shouldn’t comment yet.

But with some people, I doubt that videotapes of Jeffs and other dirty old men raping 11 year olds would not suffice.


56 posted on 05/28/2008 10:15:21 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: commonguymd
"From what I have seen they are down to 4 or 5 pregnant teenagers and ladies who have possibly had children when they were under 18."

How many little girls have to be raped before someone thinks it's actually a crime?

57 posted on 05/28/2008 10:16:43 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: MizSterious
I doubt that videotapes of Jeffs and other dirty old men raping 11 year olds

Unless you can place them in Texas, during the last four years, it is still not evidence.

But don't let simple facts interfere with your rants.

58 posted on 05/28/2008 10:33:24 AM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: SouthTexas

Yes. It is EVIDENCE. One of the girls in the “wedding pictures” is in CPS custody. She was at the ranch. Before his current address, Jeffs also lived at YFZ.


59 posted on 05/28/2008 10:34:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: big black dog
Warren Jeffs was not present at the compound.

Warren Jeffs' presence is everywhere thruout the compound.

Louisa Bradshaw (Jessop) couldn't answer the simplest questions in court last week but when asked if she knew why Jeffs was in prison and she responded, “For unjust causes as far as I’m concerned,” and added that Jeffs “is perfect to me.”

Will she be teaching her innocent little babes that a convicted felon is "perfect"?

60 posted on 05/28/2008 2:08:15 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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