Posted on 05/27/2008 12:30:59 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
The cops were operating under good faith belief that they had a valid warrant.
Where in IIntense’s post did she talk about tampling the Constitution and/or Bill of Rights? Are YOU trying to deny some of us our 1st Amendment right to free speech when what we say doesn’t agree with your opinions?
No constitutional rights have been quashed in this case. Just for the record, the Constitution does NOT guarantee the right to give little girls to old men for ‘wives’ or to take entire families away from one father and give them to another.
The RIGHTS that concern me are those of the women and children in that sick society.
Apparantly CBS saw fit to not tell any lies that time. Their story was totally consistent with that of a couple of not so distant cousins whose mothers escaped, with them, from such a group.
I think so too.
First cousin? Or those farther removed?
(And why would anyone with an OUNCE of common sense want to marry a cousin anyway?) (Cue “Dueling Banjos”....)
Yes. Absolutely.
48 Hours has always been a little more reliable than the rest of their news, not sure why. Their 48 Hours Mystery series has been outstanding.
Time to get in tune with reality.
Yes.
First cousin.
Legal in about 20 states.
When people have a child custody dispute in a divorce no one goes before a jury, nor is anyone charged with a crime.
I don't have the exact figure but that would still leave up to almost two dozen girls who either are pregnant minors or would have had to have been pregnant at a pre-consentual age.
Pregnancy of a minor is in itself evidence of abuse.
Of the 31 supposedly pregnant minors, at least 16 have been ruled out as adults or not actually pregnant. And if teenage pregnancy in and of itself is abuse, then why isn't CPS making wholesale raids on inner city neighborhoods?
Follow the leader. The leader, Warren Jeffs
Warren Jeffs was not present at the compound. He didn't abuse anyone there.
You are only partially right. He wasn’t present at the time of the raid. (He was living, um, elsewhere—the graybars hotel.) There is evidence that he HAS lived at YFZ, and some of his wives/children (in his case, some could be both) lived there, some of whom are subjects of the court’s interest in this case.
The compound was been there when Jeffs still ruled the nest (pre-jail days). Jeffs as a leader has established community & compound policy, & nobody has bucked it.
Of the 31 supposedly pregnant minors, at least 16 have been ruled out as adults or not actually pregnant. And if teenage pregnancy in and of itself is abuse, then why isn't CPS making wholesale raids on inner city neighborhoods?
Because unlike the inner city, where the tendency is to have both adults & minors as the fathers of pregnant minors, the tendency for this cult is NOT to have minor teen-age males marry...in fact, many become "the lost boys."
CBS was interviewing one of them for a program last night. He said he was not allowed to date.
It's simple deductive logic: fLDS teen boys are...
...not allowed to date.
...don't marry young.
...often wind up outside the community/compound as disenfranchised & discarded as either "disruptive" to the community or are deemed as "competition" by the adult males taking on additional wives.
I guess that leaves either in-vitro fertilization or adult males. (You get to guess which).
Of course, we really don't know for sure on anything. Nor does the mob.
Nice dodge. You’re grasping at straws using SeeBS as a “news source”. Move “evidence” I presume?
Oh please. If it were JUST CBS saying this, I might not take it so seriously. It’s not. Dateline (NBC), 20/20 (ABC) and almost every other news source including your no-doubt revered Fox have said the same things. Actually CBS did a pretty good job on this one, and did present the other side of the argument. Did you see it? If not, then maybe you shouldn’t comment yet.
But with some people, I doubt that videotapes of Jeffs and other dirty old men raping 11 year olds would not suffice.
How many little girls have to be raped before someone thinks it's actually a crime?
Unless you can place them in Texas, during the last four years, it is still not evidence.
But don't let simple facts interfere with your rants.
Yes. It is EVIDENCE. One of the girls in the “wedding pictures” is in CPS custody. She was at the ranch. Before his current address, Jeffs also lived at YFZ.
Warren Jeffs' presence is everywhere thruout the compound.
Louisa Bradshaw (Jessop) couldn't answer the simplest questions in court last week but when asked if she knew why Jeffs was in prison and she responded, “For unjust causes as far as I’m concerned,” and added that Jeffs “is perfect to me.”
Will she be teaching her innocent little babes that a convicted felon is "perfect"?
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