Karl Rove: U.S. Cannot Secure Border

You Tube ^ | 6 December 2006 | Karl Rove (via C SPAn)

[shrinkermd]

That is because you have little or no control over your emotions or prejudices and leap to conclusions accordingly.

You simply hate illegals. This predicts everything you have to say about the subject.

[shrinkermd]

I have heard of a search, but none of your assertions pop up. Just what are they? Simply, I believe, products of your resentment towards illegals.

[giotto]

It’s Karl Herr Rove.

I never liked or trusted him. He sent Bush to California just before election 2000, when he should have gone to Florida to shore up his support in a state he had a shot at winning. He had Bush talking about Social Security in San Diego on the morning the levies broke in New Orleans. He ordered that Tom Tancredo should never be allowed in the White House. He denounced the Swift Boat Vets, who were probably the reason Bush won in 2004. The man's an idiot.

[kabar]

What a steaming crock of sh*t. Rove deserves to be in jail. The failure of the WH to enforce our laws and protect our borders is a disgrace. And the jerk actually has the nerve to brag that we captured 1.2 million illegals in a year and sent them back. Besides neglecting to mention that 500,000 to 1 million evade capture and successfully gain entry, he is so stupid to understand how revealing it is about the enormity of the problem, i.e., we are being invaded by 150,000 to 200,000 people a month coming across our border.

Message to Rove: We already have guest worker programs in place that allow millions to work in the US legally. The appeal of illegal workers is that they cost less than legal workers.

[shrinkermd]

You have not watched the two tapes.

[kabar]

Yes, I have. And I saw the first one live on CSPAN the first time it was aired. I am an immigration activist who lobbies the Hill on these issues. Do you want to get involved in a discussion of immigration, legal and illegal, that include real facts? Bring it on!!!

[af_vet_rr]

What a steaming crock of sh*t. Rove deserves to be in jail. The failure of the WH to enforce our laws and protect our borders is a disgrace.

I hate to break it to you, but it was clear before Bush became the nominee in 1999 and 2000 that he preferred to keep the borders as open as possible while he was Governor of Texas. Rick Perry has continued this trend in Texas. Hell, Bush's nephew, George P. Bush, has even criticized the Border Patrol in speeches he gave in Mexico.

I voted for Bush four times - twice as Governor, twice as President, and I'm ashamed of that - when he was Governor, Texans began to realize that he wasn't going to close the borders, but it took the terrorist attacks on 9/11/01 to drive home the point that Bush and his buddies had no interesting in closing off the border.

[WalterSkinner]

Translation:..we must do nothing to delay the formation of the North American Union ...

[Grunthor]

“You simply hate illegals.”

First, in the post to which you responded, I was defending you, you jackass. Second, I believe that the laws of this nation ought to be enforced to the limit. Where needed I believe those laws should be expanded and made tougher. If you can find the word “hate” in there then you must have real talent.

“This predicts everything you have to say about the subject.”

The subject isn’t the price of tea in China, the subject is the illegal criminal invasion of my nation.

[Grunthor]

You know what, I tried to defend the little b*stard but I was unaware of the sheer idiocy lurking in what can only laughingly be referred to as his brain. I am officially out of the argument, make him yer pinata for all I care. For my reason, simply read the correspondence between him and I and you will understand.

[JoJo Gunn]

Go and sin no more. :)

[Kenny Bunk]

....know you all believe that the Mexicans are being paid 5$ or less per hour, but that is either rare or not true....

Shrink, no one who has been out of his room in the last decade believes that. Illegal Mexicans are doing real construction work and getting paid real money. Less, of course, than an American with benefits would get.... but good money nonetheless.

This is work that would, should, and could be done by any number of people whose presence in the country is legal.

[RinaseaofDs]

I’m certainly glad NASA didn’t feel that way about going to the moon.

JFK’s got more conservative credentials than anybody in the Republican party does at this point. What a mess.

[ElPatriota]

..Even today they are still supporting the Huckster, who is Elmer Gantry reincarnate....

You are absolutely right on this point. Yes I would have been a lot more excited had Huck been the nominee :)... But then, guess what, we would be back where we are right now: DIVIDED and unhappy. You would probably be saying what I am saying about MaCaca today.

So back to square one.

The BIG REVELATION in these elections so far? How different 'conservatives' are from 'social-conservatives.' Social-conservatives CARE about $$$$$, but it's NOT THE ONLY THING TO CARE FOR!!!... See the difference?

Next point on the agenda: What are Social-conservatives going to do now in the Republican party?... Specially now that we have become so 'uppity' :)... and we are no longer willing to be the Dumb as*** we have been so far, blindly supporting a party who does NOT believe in what we believe or even appreciate us!... Like you for instance :)

I happen to believe that the division is so deep it can't be breached. So do we got back to the DemoCraps? Obviously no... THIRD PARTY? Why not? We also want 'change' :)

[ElPatriota]

Thank you :)