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To: mvpel; Shooter 2.5; Old Sarge; judicial meanz; Godzilla; Cindy; Oorang; Joe Brower; ...
Surely you're not sitting here pontificating on this subject without having the slightest bit of knowledge about it, when Google is free of charge? Hand grenades were invented in the 1500's, about 250 years before the Amendment was written, in fact. Explosive land mines were used in 1277 - 500 years before the Amendment - in China, even ones detonated autonomously by enemy movement. Fuse-triggered explosive cannonballs, though dangerous to the cannon's operator as well as his targets, were used in the 1400's.

You're right, I shot from the lip on that one. I stand corrected.

But in today's political climate surely you're not going to try and justify the 2nd Amendment to the SHEEP in those terms? That's my whole point. Letters of Marque may allow Bill Gates to buy an aircraft carrier or more realistically a small destroyer or a large cutter. But the hue and cry would leave him hanging from his own yardarm.

This very thread could be used to do the same to us. Face it: we allowed the liberals to infiltrate public education under the radar and the current situation is the result and there is no turning back on that. They have globalized the minds of the children who will become cops, soldiers, politicians and future teachers! My new sociology textbook mentions the word GLOBAL in all it's forms and tenses at least 50 times a chapter! I have to give assignments and teach from that.

Clearly the 2nd Amendment and it's true meaning is one of the fatalities of this brilliant enemy action. For us to argue this round and round just adds icing to their cake.

144 posted on 05/28/2008 4:07:56 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
But in today's political climate surely you're not going to try and justify the 2nd Amendment to the SHEEP in those terms?

Of COURSE not. But they already know that's where the inconvenient Second Amendment takes us, because they are fully aware that before 1934 you could buy machine guns at Sears, Roebuck, & Co., cash-and-carry or mail-order from the venerable Sears catalog.

Why do you think they're so exercised over the implications of the Heller case and an individual-rights ruling? Why else would they have spent decades trying to twist the meaning of the Second Amendment, if they weren't aware of that?

Their gun-grabbing house of cards that they've built up over the decades is on the verge of collapse, and there's essentially nothing they can do about it.

As for hue and cry, so what? Let them hue and cry all they want, as long as they don't initiate force to violate my individual rights.

145 posted on 05/28/2008 4:32:33 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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