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Supreme Court meets to issue opinions, orders (Washington DC Gun Ban)
The Las Vegas Sun ^ | May 27, 2008 | AP

Posted on 05/27/2008 7:51:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

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To: Erik Latranyi

We need the USSC to protect us from democrats like rarely before. Please do the right thing guys.


41 posted on 05/27/2008 10:07:11 AM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: DBrow

Great quote! But, did “Federal” paper money exist in the US at the time of the revolution? Or maybe they just had private bank notes, or State currencies? When or how, was paper money legalized for the fed.gov, without an Amendment? Or maybe it was ALWAYS legal for the Fed.gov, and it was STATES that were limited to gold and silver coin? What is your thinking on this? Yes, the States have rules on what constitutes legal tender, but does not the Fed.gov also?


42 posted on 05/27/2008 10:17:40 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
I may be ignorant about the duration of SCOTUS decision-making, but it seems to me that a case, that is clearly defined in the Constitution, should be a no-brainer for the court. Why is it taking so long? Are they looking for ways to justify government “infringement”??

Right off the top of my head I can think of at least 25 cases where it was so obvious as to be a no brainer and the USSC went the other direction! A distinct lack of brains represented on the liberal left on this court is quite evident so our civil liberties are always in jeopardy when they meet.

I have often thought that at least one of those justices shouldn't in fact be a judge at all. They should be a history teacher with valid conservative credentials and a strong and visceral objection to revisionist history. Somebody ... like .... me!

43 posted on 05/27/2008 10:19:09 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wastedyears
Why should there be “reasonable regulation” regarding the Second Amendment at all?

Do you really believe that everyone should have 50 cal machine guns fore and aft on their cars in downtown New York City? Should 6 year olds be able to buy hand grenades at 7-11?

Do you also think that "libel" and "slander" are unreasonable restrictions on the God Given Right of First Amendment 'Free' Speech?

44 posted on 05/27/2008 10:19:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: andyandval
Hey, nobody should knock that collection. With what you have there (357, 22 and a 45) you can durn near take any game on the north American continent, except grizzly and for sure any two legged varmits! Thanks for the visuals.
45 posted on 05/27/2008 10:21:42 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wastedyears
Sigarms Trailblazer in .22

No way is that a Sig. It's a Ruger or I'll eat my NRA Instructor's cap.

46 posted on 05/27/2008 10:24:02 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: wastedyears

Revolver = Taurus


47 posted on 05/27/2008 10:24:03 AM PDT by oneolcop
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To: andyandval; LibertyRocks
LibertyRocks is talking about your stainless Ruger MkIII Hunter with the custom wood grips.

LR, it's a .22 pistol made by Ruger. They are very nice. Ruger has been making this model type since 1949. Andy's is the most updated version but still has the classic 'Atomic Age' style.

If you were going to get a first pistol for yourself LibertyRocks, that is the one to get.

48 posted on 05/27/2008 10:27:29 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: wastedyears

Revolver = Taurus


49 posted on 05/27/2008 10:28:09 AM PDT by oneolcop
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To: oneolcop

oops, sorry for the double post.


50 posted on 05/27/2008 10:29:37 AM PDT by oneolcop
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To: LibertyRocks; andyandval
the red-gripped one in your picture. It almost looks “other-worldly” - like a “ray-gun” or Han Solo’s Blaster! ;) What kind of gun is that

If you mean the one on the lower right, that's a Ruger Mark III Hunter in .22 LR with very pretty cocobolo grips.

51 posted on 05/27/2008 10:31:06 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: ExSoldier

Very welcome. And thanks for your service.


52 posted on 05/27/2008 10:37:20 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: sam_paine
Do you really believe that everyone should have 50 cal machine guns fore and aft on their cars in downtown New York City? Should 6 year olds be able to buy hand grenades at 7-11?

In a word? YES. Because that's not the 2nd Amendment that would be regulating such. Under the 10th Amendment it would be up to the states to issue age restrictions, just like alcohol. I've fought this ground before, but I maintain that hand grenades and mines aren't covered under the 2nd because they are AREA weapons. Meanwhile, tanks, aircraft carriers and etc are covered under the letters of marque section of the Constitution instead of the second. That section is what gives Blackwater the right to exist.

Do you also think that "libel" and "slander" are unreasonable restrictions on the God Given Right of First Amendment 'Free' Speech?

Before you can apply those charges you have to meet many standards for your case to go to trial and it's very tough to prove them to the satisfaction of most jurists. So slander and libel aren't given as free reign as the right to free speech.

53 posted on 05/27/2008 10:38:46 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Thanks for clearing that up.

Thought he was talking about the Para...:)

54 posted on 05/27/2008 10:46:34 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: ExSoldier
Right off the top of my head I can think of at least 25 cases where it was so obvious as to be a no brainer and the USSC went the other direction!

Apparently, no man's life, liberty, and property are secure while the SCOTUS is in session.
55 posted on 05/27/2008 10:48:15 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: sam_paine
Do you really believe that everyone should have 50 cal machine guns fore and aft on their cars in downtown New York City?

What does downtown NYC have to do with anything?

I don't believe that everyone "should" have dual 50 cals on their cars - it'd be a waste of gasoline carrying around all the ammo weight all the time. But why should simply having them be a crime?

Look, people can legally buy and operate cars capable of doing two to three times the highest maximum speed limit anywhere in the US with no background check, no fingerprints, no nothing except the fees for the license plates and the price of gasoline.

In free countries, you don't criminalize machines, you criminalize criminal behavior.

Should 6 year olds be able to buy hand grenades at 7-11?

It used to be possible, in the 50's, to buy 20mm anti-tank rifles mail-order, and the country didn't descend into urban chaos. What purpose does your example here serve except as a pitiful attempt to inflame emotion?

If I'm busy changing the oil and I want to send my six-year-old down to the corner store to pick up a few rounds for my M40 for some weekend recreation or stump removal, what business is it of yours or anyone else's?

No ID check, signature, or even human interaction is needed to buy as much gasoline as one's credit card balance and tank capacity will allow, and one gallon of gasoline has the explosive potential of 14 sticks of dynamite. I can, right now, today, send a six-year-old to the corner gas station with my credit card and a little red wagon to pick up five gallons for the lawn mower, and the world hasn't collapsed into arson-driven chaos yet.

Don't buy into the imaginary peril that the anti-gunners dream up. It's just not related to reality in any meaningful way.

56 posted on 05/27/2008 10:51:20 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Actually, today is Tuesday, but I understand what you mean.


57 posted on 05/27/2008 10:54:02 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: andyandval

58 posted on 05/27/2008 11:10:25 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
If you were going to get a first pistol for yourself LibertyRocks, that is the one to get.

I can think of a couple of others like the Walther P22 with the target barrel or the Sig Mosquito or the Browning Buck Mark. I can't post any pix from here but I'm sure somebody can...The Browning and the Walther are comparable in price to the Ruger. The new Walther looks more like one of Captain Kirk's phasers (not the ones from the Picard era!) than a normal handgun.

59 posted on 05/27/2008 11:10:36 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: 2harddrive
Knox v Lee, 79 U.S. 457 in 1871 decided that paper money was not unconstitutional, with some sort of rationale that the constitution did not explicitly say that all money had to be metal, so paper money was money.

No amendment, just a court case, after which printed paper money had the same value as minted coins of gold and silver.

Point is, the “no brainer” does not count with the Supremes, you never know what they will do.

It took a Supremes decision to decide whether or not a tomato is a fruit or vegetable, and botanically, it's clearly a fruit, being the pollinated, seed-containing ovary of the tomato plant, surely a no-brainer, but the Supremes saw it differently.

It's not a slam-dunk they will rule on the side of RKBA as most here understand that right.

60 posted on 05/27/2008 11:11:08 AM PDT by DBrow
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