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To: Gondring
How you can claim an argument displays both "ignorance" and "dishonesty" at the same time is beyond me. Seems like a scattershot criticism when the facts don't support your argument.

Now you're just misquoting me :-)

I said ignorant or dishonest. There are two reasons people say a lie - one is because they are dishonest and intentionally lie knowing that it is a lie, and the other is that they believe a lie but think it's the truth, in which case they do say a lie but they don't intend to and don't know that it's a lie.

Thus, I have no way of knowing whether you realized that you were equating a tool with an idea or were clueless. I was saying either your statement was dishonest or ignorant but that I didn't know which - one OR the other.

In other words, it is quite clear that Hitler's views were in direct contrast to Darwin's.

I disagree: Darwin said basically "Here's how the fittest became to be" and Hitler then added on "Lets make it even better and help it!".

-Jesse

306 posted on 06/21/2008 11:18:41 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
I said ignorant or dishonest.

Yikes! So you did!

My apologies! In fact, I was going to suggest that perhaps "or" would have been appropriate...when now I see that I just misread your wording.

I used to use SID as my acronym for the possibilities...

and wondered which was being the least offensive to assume. I also later added "Evil" as a possibility. So I now ask myself "SIDE?" when I read many things from libs. :-)

I disagree: Darwin said basically "Here's how the fittest became to be" and Hitler then added on "Lets make it even better and help it!".

Please explain how this is different from Selective Breeding, in your opinion.

308 posted on 06/21/2008 11:28:32 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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