[Coyoteman]

And that's exactly what ID proponents say.... Complex systems look designed because perhaps, they are. Who did it, remains an open question.

Who are you trying to kid?

The modern iteration of ID is exclusively about trying to force the fundamentalist Christian religious belief into schools, and hence into dominance in this country.

Have you not read the Wedge Strategy? What do you think those folks are promoting, real science?

If so, I have a nice bridge to sell you. Centrally located, with lots of traffic!

Here is what they say in the Wedge:

We are building on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to be called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.

Sounds more like a theocracy than a democracy to me.

No thanks. The Dark Ages belong in the past, not in our future.

[SeekAndFind]

Have you not read the Wedge Strategy? What do you think those folks are promoting, real science?

I would presume then that guys like Richard Dawkins, who holds the chair for public understanding of science, who openly advocates for a world without religion and who calls parents who teach their kids about God child abusers isn't promoting something ?? Is that real science he is promoting ?

The man has an agenda, but we don't judge the idea of Darwinism based on people who have a personal agendas. We judge Darwinism or Intelligent Design based on those who best explain it best ( i.e., which best explains what we observe).

The Wedge Strategy is tangential to the issue.