[SeekAndFind]

Have you not read the Wedge Strategy? What do you think those folks are promoting, real science?

I would presume then that guys like Richard Dawkins, who holds the chair for public understanding of science, who openly advocates for a world without religion and who calls parents who teach their kids about God child abusers isn't promoting something ?? Is that real science he is promoting ?

The man has an agenda, but we don't judge the idea of Darwinism based on people who have a personal agendas. We judge Darwinism or Intelligent Design based on those who best explain it best ( i.e., which best explains what we observe).

The Wedge Strategy is tangential to the issue.

[Coyoteman]

We judge Darwinism or Intelligent Design based on those who best explain it best ( i.e., which best explains what we observe).

The Wedge Strategy is tangential to the issue.

In science we judge these matters based on the evidence. So far there is no evidence for ID. There are just creationists pushing it in a dishonest effort to sneak religion into the schools.

And no, the Wedge Strategy is not tangential to the issue. It is central to the issue.

The Discovery Institute is the main force behind ID today. They are running a large PR campaign, and are staffed with lawyers and PR flacks, with an occasional journalist.

They are not doing scientific research, they are doing PR. They are not publishing in scientific journals, they are snaring opinion-makers in their nets. This is all laid out in the Wedge Strategy, which (whoops!) somehow leaked out and ended up on the web.

A very telling quote:

We are building on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to be called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.

So, what do you think they are pushing? Real science? Or religion poorly disguised as science?

I can't believe they actually think they are fooling anyone!