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After decommissioning, carrier’s eventual fate unknown (USS Kitty Hawk)
Stars and Stripes ^ | 5/25/08 | Teri Weaver and Allison Batdorff

Posted on 05/24/2008 5:46:02 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

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To: Fiddlstix
Thanks a whole bunch!!!!!.........

Thank the good Lord you didn't forget me!!!!!!.........Hope you are doing OK!!!......

21 posted on 05/24/2008 9:10:18 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran)
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To: GitmoSailor
On the first cruise around the Horn (1961) I worked in Ready-Room five near the lower escalator landing. I remember riding it up to the 04 level on my daily trips (in person)to main-com and CAG-11 to pick up messages that were in written form.

Seems KH Class carriers had some unique first LOL. KH had an escelator? We were the only carrier to have a sonar dome. Sleeping in A&R berthing Aft 3rd deck below the port & starboard chow lines we could hear it pinging all night.

22 posted on 05/24/2008 9:10:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: Strategerist
“Old ships are old ships. There's a point where it's not worth it to repair or upgrade them.”

Yeah. And I think the Oriskany got a great final resting place. At sea, not in a scrap yard or sold to the Chinese for scrap.

23 posted on 05/24/2008 9:21:06 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is NOT a presidential only. 3 to 5 Supremes' will retire! Vote accordingly)
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To: JSteff
Yeah. And I think the Oriskany got a great final resting place. At sea, not in a scrap yard or sold to the Chinese for scrap.

Due to EPA rules the Navy can't find any U.S. companies willing to scrap a carrier. The MMR's are loaded with asbestos, oils, grease, and likely PCB's as well. There will be more sinkings coming pretty soon likely.

24 posted on 05/24/2008 9:49:23 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: BroJoeK
The ships and aircraft in that photograph could deliver quite a bit more explosive power than was detonated in the whole of WWII.

-ccm

25 posted on 05/24/2008 10:26:20 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Dawnsblood

I did two decommissionings. The first was a strip-down and seal-up to put the ship in mothballs. The second was a hot turnover to a foreign navy (Chile). Give me the second kind any day of the week.


26 posted on 05/24/2008 11:10:14 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Kitty Hawk did six tours in Vietnam between 1963 and 1976 and was the first aircraft carrier ever to be awarded a Presidential Unit Citation. The award, the unit equivalent of the Navy Cross, was presented by President Lyndon B. Johnson on Dec. 20, 1968, to the ship and Carrier Air Wing 11.

I'm 95% certain the WWII Enterprise received a PUC.

27 posted on 05/24/2008 11:15:42 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
A hot turn over of a CV would be about impossible. These are 1200 PSI steamers. It takes a qualified crew to run them and to qualify such a crew would take years. Besides who's gonna pay for the mandatory major overhaul? KH is wore out literally. 50 years is a lot to ask of a Super Heated High Pressure Steamer and Kitty Hawk made the trip. Anything beyond that and your asking for some major human causalities without completely rebuilding the entire steam plants.
28 posted on 05/24/2008 11:23:19 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: cva66snipe
Oh I agree completely. I seem to remember that even the Knox class FFs were giving foreign navies hell with their 1200 PSI plants and they're a lot smaller than a CV. I was just reminiscing that from a sailor's POV, the mothball decomm sucks.
29 posted on 05/24/2008 11:32:46 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: magslinger

ping


30 posted on 05/24/2008 11:41:47 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: ccmay
"The ships and aircraft in that photograph could deliver quite a bit more explosive power than was detonated in the whole of WWII. "

Sure, if nuclear armed.

If conventionally armed, I would still argue they could deliver as much destructive power on actual military targets as ever reached its targets in W.W.II -- since bombing "accuracy" in those days was measured in miles!

31 posted on 05/25/2008 5:02:30 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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To: UpToHere

Cat Officers ping


32 posted on 05/25/2008 6:02:15 AM PDT by UpToHere
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To: GATOR NAVY
Oh I agree completely. I seem to remember that even the Knox class FFs were giving foreign navies hell with their 1200 PSI plants and they're a lot smaller than a CV. I was just reminiscing that from a sailor's POV, the mothball decomm sucks.

Having them sink one you're trying to get museum status for does too. The Navy's done some weird choices in the pate decade or so. Amazing though KH was the oldest of her class and JFK and out lasted them all. Only Enterprise remains from that era and it really should be taken out soon.

33 posted on 05/25/2008 9:45:46 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

34 posted on 05/25/2008 1:43:48 PM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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