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Criminal investigation of polygamous sect unimpeded by court wrangling
American-Statesman ^ | May 24, 2008 | Mike Ward

Posted on 05/24/2008 5:23:27 PM PDT by MizSterious

Criminal investigation of polygamous sect unimpeded by court wrangling

But officials say uncovering crimes is slow work

By Mike Ward
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Saturday, May 24, 2008

The state's decision to put hundreds of children from a polygamist sect into foster care bogged down in legal maneuvers this week, but authorities said Friday a criminal investigation into sexual-abuse allegations at the sect's West Texas ranch is moving ahead unimpaired.

However, it's unlikely that any charges will be filed soon, officials said.

"The Rangers and the DPS are methodically going through all the evidence," said Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of Public Safety, which is heading the criminal probe.

"We're going to take as much time as it takes to make a case that the D.A. and the attorney general's office can prosecute."

Jerry Strickland, a spokesman for Attorney General Greg Abbott, whose office has been named special prosecutor in the case, echoed the sentiment: "We'll continue to work with local, state and federal law enforcement in reviewing the items seized and continue to investigate the case."

Mange said the criminal case is separate from the child-abuse investigation by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services that triggered an April 3 raid at the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint's nearly 1,700-acre ranch near Eldorado.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: childabuse; childmolesters; flds; mormon; yfz
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1 posted on 05/24/2008 5:23:27 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: greyfoxx39; metmom; brytlea; PennsylvaniaMom; UCANSEE2; Columbine; org.whodat; Nevadan; ...

FYI ping. Interesting details in the body of the article, well worth the click.


2 posted on 05/24/2008 5:31:52 PM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: MizSterious
The state's decision to put hundreds of children from a polygamist sect into foster care bogged down in legal maneuvers this week, but authorities said Friday a criminal investigation into sexual-abuse allegations at the sect's West Texas ranch is moving ahead unimpaired.

The government has virtually unlimited resources vs. the little guy (you and me, for example). So if the government becomes fascist or socialist, as we are, or already have become, we will have the thought police, organizations such as EPA, CPS, and other government agencies telling us what we can think, or say, or do. Even the filthy rich can be brought down by the government. It would be nice if the State would focus its considerable resources on borders, language, and culture instead of assisting people with a baseless, hate-based agenda, or with no real oversight, IMO. But, instead, now the government has to prove that what it did, or be embarrassed by its utter failure. The State has the resources to look until it finds something on somebody that it can use to justify its position. This is a colossal waste of resources.

3 posted on 05/24/2008 5:39:15 PM PDT by olezip
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To: MizSterious

Such slow pokes. These people just do not move fast enough for freepers:’)


4 posted on 05/24/2008 5:52:53 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
I found this snippet from the article especially interesting:

Details about the criminal investigation of the sect have been tightly guarded since the raid, as investigators have quietly continued work and in several instances had documents sealed by court order to prevent details from becoming public.

Apparently, there's a lot going on that all the "experts" on these threads aren't aware of. Imagine, no one consulted with them first!

;)

5 posted on 05/24/2008 5:58:29 PM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: MizSterious
"Details about the criminal investigation of the sect have been tightly guarded since the raid, as investigators have quietly continued work and in several instances had documents sealed by court order to prevent details from becoming public."

Apparently, there's a lot going on that all the "experts" on these threads aren't aware of. Imagine, no one consulted with them first!

Were you a die-hard supporter of Nifong when he tried to railroad the Duke lacrosse players? The Texans are pulling the same crap and you believe them.

6 posted on 05/24/2008 6:44:46 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

No, I wasn’t. I could tell the Duke thing was a frame job. I can tell this one isn’t.


7 posted on 05/24/2008 6:49:50 PM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: MizSterious

No consulting with Freepers and hourly reports? Who do these people think they are? The Texas Rangers?


8 posted on 05/24/2008 7:02:23 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: MizSterious
"We gained access to the ranch when the (Child Protective Services investigators) went in,

So they got in on this hoax too. Wonder how many other agencies managed to get into that compound under cover of this lie?

I'm not saying it will happen, but I see the possibility that a lot if not all of this evidence will be considered tainted because of the hoax and thrown out.

9 posted on 05/24/2008 7:13:28 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
“Details about the criminal investigation of the sect have been tightly guarded since the raid, as investigators have quietly continued work and in several instances had documents sealed by court order to prevent details from becoming public.”
Apparently, there's a lot going on that all the “experts” on these threads aren't aware of. Imagine, no one consulted with them first!

“Were you a die-hard supporter of Nifong when he tried to railroad the Duke lacrosse players? The Texans are pulling the same crap and you believe”

No! We Texans prefer that Utah keep all of its polygamists with old geezers “marrying” 13 and 14 year olds.

My advise to non Texans: do not let your suspicion's of CPS personnel trump common sense and/or common decency

10 posted on 05/24/2008 7:49:42 PM PDT by texican01
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

In the Lacrosse frame Crystal Mangum told a different story every day, and most reasonable people took that as evidence that she was lying.

In this case the FLDS adults have told story after story and now you are insisting that the State must be the one lying.

In the Lacrosse case the boys were eager to get the DNA evidence to prove their innocence.

In this case most of the males have scattered to who knows where and the lawyers for the accused are trying their damnedest to make sure DNA evidence is never produced.

but you are so insistent that that just goes to prove there doesn’t need to be an investigation.

I don’t think you are doing a very good job of producing parallels that support your position, and I don’t expect the Texas supreme court to throw this thing out


11 posted on 05/24/2008 8:49:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MizSterious

BTTT


12 posted on 05/24/2008 8:52:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: olezip

Interestingly, *the government* is not some monolithic all agreeing *thing*. Witness the disagreement between courts in this very case.

susie


13 posted on 05/24/2008 8:52:19 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: MizSterious

Apparently, there’s a lot going on that all the “experts” on these threads aren’t aware of. Imagine, no one consulted with them first!
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

However will this case be completed successfully without them ????????????????????????


14 posted on 05/24/2008 8:54:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MizSterious

The FLDS are not out of the woods yet.
Warren Jeffs likeness is not plastered all over their compound for nothing.


15 posted on 05/24/2008 9:13:48 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: MizSterious

They should just get some of the freepers on the jury who already have convicted the lot of them. It would make putting a case together much easier.


16 posted on 05/24/2008 9:55:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MizSterious
Details...have been tightly guarded since the raid...

I won't be surprised if Texas authorities have more information that they haven't publicized. I've had that thought and hope its true.

17 posted on 05/24/2008 11:59:46 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: MizSterious
...Duke thing was a frame job...this one isn't.

Right on! Interesting how someone who disagrees with you resorts to desparate comparisons to convince you you're wrong.

18 posted on 05/25/2008 12:07:59 AM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
...evidence will be tainted because of the hoax and thrown out.

The CPA acted in good faith, as far as I can determine. Did you ever think that the "hoax" may have been a blessing in disguise?

If you choose to be so defensive of polygamous communities which follow the whims of their leaders (who claim that God speaks to them), I think it's fair to ask if you are a member of one of these groups. If not, why not?

19 posted on 05/25/2008 12:19:32 AM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: MrEdd
In this case the FLDS adults have told story after story and now you are insisting that the State must be the one lying.

Actually the State has been telling more than it's fair share of 'stories'. Actually, they've been telling lies.

How many 14 year old girls have now morphed magically into 27 year old women?

How many Arrest Warrants were based on lies?

How many Search Warrants were based on lies?

These CPS freaks have been lying their asses off since this mess started.

And the SC of TX is going to toss this thing out on it's ear early next week.

L

20 posted on 05/25/2008 12:24:18 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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