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Kerry: Let’s Talk to Iran to “Reclaim the Moral High Ground”
hotair.com ^ | May 24, 2008 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/24/2008 4:23:00 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Behold the “global test” in action. Pray tell, dear Waffles, from whom will we be reclaiming it?

"Dialogue helps us isolate Ahmadinejad rather than empowering him to isolate us. More important, even if we fail to reach an agreement, engaging Iran will spark three conversations likely to strengthen our position…

The third conversation is with the world. By engaging Iran, we reclaim the moral high ground — no small feat. If Iran refuses to budge, we have new leverage to expose it as a threat whose bad intentions cannot be explained away."

I’m curious to hear how Iran’s intentions might otherwise be “explained away.” Presumably he believes, as Obama does, that “Iran’s support for militant groups in Iraq reflected its anxiety over the Bush administration’s policies in the region,” but as I’ve noted before, that theory fails to account for the fact that both Hezbollah and the nuclear program were in business long before Bush came to power. Even under the most blinkered, charitable reading of the regime’s behavior, that they’re fighting some sort of defensive war instead of engaging in fundamentalist expansionism (or something even darker), their “anxiety” over Israel’s capabilities will remain no matter what sort of deal we reach with them. How far is Kerry willing to go to ease Iran’s troubled mind? Or to put it differently, after years of negotiations with Europe plus an offer of unspecified concessions from the United States in 2006 which, per Condi Rice, apparently remains on the table, at what point will it be safe to conclude that Iran has refused to budge? This goes to the heart of conservatives’ fears about Obama, not that he’d be willing to talk to Iran before considering a military option but that he’ll never consider a military option, no matter how dire the threat may become. It’s diplomacy literally unto death, which I think is why so many righties equate his rhetoric about negotiation with appeasement. To borrow a favorite concept of the left, how about some benchmarks up front to gauge whether progress in negotiations is sufficient to warrant further diplomacy or whether it’s time to consider other options?

The other two “conversations” he has in mind, incidentally, are with the Iranian people, who supposedly need to be formally informed that their government’s earning them a bad name internationally even after two rounds of UN sanctions, and with the regime itself, which may ultimately warm to a deal “at the right moment” even though Democrats are hellbent on removing any leverage we might have in moving the warming process along. Exit question one: If Obama does meet with Iran, it’ll be perfectly okay if McCain tries to undermine his presidential authority by badmouthing him abroad, right? Exit question two, per Kerry’s reminder that Ahmadinejad is “neither Iran’s supreme leader nor someone whom Obama specifically promised to meet”: If he’s so inconsequential a figure, why did Waffles himself single him out as the world leader he’d most like to throw off a cliff two years ago?


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; blahblahblah; iran; jfkerry; kerry; obama; stuckonstupid
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To: Hoodat; jveritas

The City on a Hill sometimes must prove and preserve its moral high ground by making craters.


41 posted on 05/24/2008 7:35:09 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Don't knock McCain on that particular score...if I were president, I would call in most of that same bunch and pick their brains too and seek consensus.

And then I'd know what NOT to do.

42 posted on 05/24/2008 7:39:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I couldn't tell them apart so they I made a minor revision. ;-)


43 posted on 05/24/2008 8:00:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: calcowgirl
I couldn't tell them apart so they I made a minor revision. ;-)

Oh, very good! =-)
44 posted on 05/24/2008 8:07:37 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Another reason to can the presumptive nomination of McLoser.

Seek the wisdom of Biden?

That is a non-existent entity.

That is one scary quote from McAmnesty. Thanks for finding it.


45 posted on 05/24/2008 8:25:51 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Hoodat
hmm. Kerry apparently presuming the role of party grandaddy in Kennedy's absence.

Oh, wait...

***

Obama: The Audacity of Talk.

46 posted on 05/24/2008 8:28:14 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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To: FFranco
Has McCain made any statements about this recently? He’s changed some of his ideas since being defeated in the 2000 campaign.

Are you possibly working from the baseline assumption that John McCain might conceivably have become more conservative over the past four years, rather than less...? ;)

47 posted on 05/24/2008 8:45:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
And then I'd know what NOT to do.

... and, had this been what McCain had actually stated, in the direct quotation referenced: I'd be reasonably okay with that. ;)

48 posted on 05/24/2008 8:47:24 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: calcowgirl

So startlingly like the real things, for a moment I genuinely thought you’d posted actual photographs! ;)


49 posted on 05/24/2008 8:49:28 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: All; BIGLOOK

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NEVER FORGET

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JOHN KERRY =

A most horrid “JOURNEY from the FALL” for so very many

http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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NEVER FORGET

.


50 posted on 05/24/2008 9:00:20 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
So startlingly like the real things, for a moment I genuinely thought you’d posted actual photographs! ;)

As is reinforced by these images, you simply must vote for ThingR because the alternative, ThingD, is simply unthinkable!

51 posted on 05/24/2008 10:07:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: calcowgirl
As is reinforced by these images, you simply must vote for ThingR because the alternative, ThingD, is simply unthinkable!

UNTHINGABLE!!! ;)

52 posted on 05/24/2008 10:10:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Unthingable! Perfect, LOL.


53 posted on 05/24/2008 10:33:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl (Schwarzenegger and McCain are trying to castrate the elephant)
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To: Hoodat

The only high ground the Angry Ayatollahs are likely to understand or care about is that which we are shooting at them from.


54 posted on 05/24/2008 11:35:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Hoodat
We already have the moral high ground, you idiot.

The Democratic Compromise (Hussein-Pelosi) with Iran is NOT about terrorism nor nuclear capabilities. It's about one thing now...CHEAP OIL. The uneducated ignorant general populace would swoon over lower gas prices regardless of the compromises with Iran.

55 posted on 05/25/2008 6:43:05 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Don't knock McCain on that particular score...if I were president, I would call in most of that same bunch and pick their brains too and seek consensus. And then I'd know what NOT to do. Except that you, I and the everyone who has half a brain knows that is not what McCain had in mind.

He was either pandering (my first vote) or he really believes this nonsense that these traitors actually have something good or righteous or useful to add to the discussion
56 posted on 05/25/2008 10:24:29 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie
he really believes this nonsense that these traitors actually have something good or righteous or useful to add to the discussion


57 posted on 05/25/2008 10:36:51 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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