Posted on 05/24/2008 9:08:27 AM PDT by wolfcreek
The state's decision to put hundreds of children from a polygamist sect into foster care bogged down in legal maneuvers this week but, the criminal investigation is moving ahead unimpaired.
I knew the en masse child-snatching was a massive overreach that would blow up in their faces. You don’t seize kids and look for evidence later.
The criminal investigation is another matter. Like Fox News taking that sheriff on a helicopter tour of the FLDS leadership’s hideaway under construction in his jurisdiction. Chase them from pillar-to-post. Keep the investigative heat on them no matter where they flee.
Colorado City went unmolested from the fifties to the 00’s. For decades everyone in power looked the other way. This must never be allowed again.
“This must never be allowed again.”
I agree and wish they’d run them out of Texas.
BTW: 12 children were released from foster care to their parents. They must stay in the San Antonio area and not return to the ranch.
There’s a recent historical parallel here...
ISKON (the American branch of the Harry Krishnas) was taken over after the founder’s death in the seventies by “Swami Kirtananda who built his own empire “New Vrindaban” in the mountains of West Virginia with all the usual attendant ugliness and perversion. Finally, the mess was broken open after a breakaway member determined to expose everything was assassinated on his orders. This set in motion the investigation and chain of events that brought the whole edifice down once law enforcement finally decided to pay serious attention.
ISKON and New Vrindaban still exist, but according to what I have read recently they really ARE a straight-up hindu religious order that nowadays caters to Indian expats rather than vulnerable spiritual drifters.
If you search google you probably will find a good remedial reading self help course.
The Rangers and DFS should have taken away only the teens who really were in imminent danger, i.e. girls being “spiritually married” and boys being abandoned.
That said, the getting the DNA samples will lead to the arrest of many men. It will solve child support issues and custody cases filed by parents who have left.
The Rangers should search every inch of that ranch with cadaver dogs, looking for buried children who may have suffered abuse or the fumarase deficiency deformities. This disgusting group needs to be prosecuted to the max and broken up for good.
I don't know how many of the men gave samples but, I bet the main perps did not.
The first DNA mapping will be to connect children with their true mothers. From what I’ve read, babies were taken from mothers in one commune and given to women in other communes, in an effort to confuse the whole issue of paternity.
You would be correct.
Not sure of the number but, Warren Jeffs personally choose girls under the age of 6 to bring to Texas. (based on interviews with former sect members)
He said, “They haven’t been tainted by the world at that age”
“I don’t know how many of the men gave samples but, I bet the main perps did not.”
“The first DNA mapping will be to connect children with their true mothers.”
Mothers are easily traced by mitochondrial DNA. I would imagine the DNA samples of fathers after 100 years of inbreeding will be extremely puzzling, and defense lawyers will be able mount a formidable defense against male paternity, since the DNA will be so similar. It will be much harder to prove than normal DNA comparisons among very different people.
since the DNA will be so similar
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Similiar but still different..
However there was acase where identical twin men were so similiar that the DNA match wasnt certain enough to prosecute one of them for rape...
But that shouldnt happen here..
Actually, a forensic geneticist (if I'm using the right term) would likely regard this sort of mystery as the highlight of his career!
Zookeepers who manage breeding of endangered species might have the same interesting problem--finding suitable partners with enough dissimilarity.
“Zookeepers who manage breeding of endangered species might have the same interesting problem—finding suitable partners with enough dissimilarity.”
Yes that is interesting too! I learned that 300 is the point of diminishing return on human groups, according to the anthropologists. In other words, without new blood a community of 300 will eventually become too inbred to continue. Incest and polygamy accelerate the degradation of a gene pool.
We should all be happy to know that Texas has a case coming up to test its 2005 enacted law against bigamy which was aimed directly at the FLDS: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-yahweh_11met.ART.State.Edition2.46f2f8b.html
A lot of people on my local forum see nothing wrong with polygamy and say it will not be prosecuted, but I certainly hope it will be, vigorously.
And I agree with your thoughts about the forensic geneticist. CSI could have scripts for the next century!
The real problem is going to be the fact many children at the ranch will have NEITHER parent available for testing.
Some were taken from their real parents at such an early age, they likely don’t remember them.
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