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To: Repeal The 17th; Virginia Ridgerunner; LeGrande
I'm sure there are lots of Conservative Athiests. One only needs to hand out on the Crevo threads to see them.

But what kind of conservative?

My guess is that most Atheist Conservatives, are fiscal conservatives only and could care less about social conservatism.

It seems to me, that a true atheist, being a mere byproduct of random chance evolution would have mostly self interest at heart.


301 posted on 05/24/2008 10:36:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Your first point is accurate, except that we care about social issues, but I am sure that we would disagree with you.

Therefore they'd be for minimal taxes and minimal government interference in their lives, but they wouldn't care about social issues.

The rest of your points would be very extreme.

321 posted on 05/25/2008 6:38:36 AM PDT by LeGrande
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“Therefore they’d be for minimal taxes and minimal government interference in their lives, but they wouldn’t care about social issues.”

OK until you got to “social issues”. The Founders would like all but the “social issues” part. Note carefully the lesson taught to one Rep. Davy Crockett by Horatio Bunce. Google it, as it is perhaps the most compelling lesson on why government is forbidden to do charity.

“They wouldn’t feel an obligation to feed the poor. Let them starve, that’s evolution at work, right? Taxes for such issues is theft, right?”

Wrong, and here is why:
A. Man is a social organism, therefore in group amity is an inherited behavioral predisposition.
B. “Taxes for such issues is theft” is incorrect. The correct version would read, “Taxes for such issues is forbidden by the Constitution.”

“They probably wouldn’t care much about support for traditional families either. Let the gays marry if they want to, maybe they’ll spread less disease. Marriage isn’t holy it’s just a contract. Polygamists? Whatever floats your boat? Government should have no say?”

Every sentence need correction, so here goes:
A. Conservatives know that the introduction of marriage as we know it started under Jewish law, specifically under Moses.
B. They also know that marriage is the basis of Western society.
C. Being Conservatives, they know better than casually changing a historically tested social mechanism which has produced the most Liberty and wealth the world has ever know.
D. Homosexuality IS abnormal, therefore Conservatives treat it as such. As for your disease theory, “Those who insist in recreating in sewers can expect to contract diseases.”, as Dr. Morton Anis said.
E. If you check, you will find that marriage to a Jew, and therefore, by extension to a Christian, is both a contract and a contract undertaken in the presence of G*d.
F. Polygamy was forbidden because having a wife makes a man out of an over-age boy. And, when one man has many wives, many men have no wife - such societies are unstable because those unmarried men have no place except as surplus males, and males without the responsibilites of a husband and father. Think “Muslim male”, as is too often the case in Muslim societies. Read Churchhill in his famous “River War” description of Islam. “There is no more retrograde force . . .”.
G. “Whatever floats your boat” was the mantra of Hippies - they didn’t have to support themselves. Respectfully, that one is a straw dog of the mange infested sort.
H. “Government should have no say.” Government should have a “say” only when one citizen’s actions impact the freedoms of other citizens, because courts exist to balance rights in conflict. They will come into conflict, due to human nature; therefore we institute government.

“If people want to destroy themselves with drugs, let them?”

Where in the Constitution do you find authorization for DEA, the War On Drugs”, ad nauseam? Duicide is still the citizen’s decision, because we are sovereign, not subjects. Subjects are forbidden suicide because in killing themselves, they are depriving the sovereign (King, ad nauseam).

Americans are individually sovereign and thus have the right to suicide.

“Just give us the right to shoot them dead if they pick a daffodil out of my front yard?”

In Texas, if they pick that daffodil out of your yard at night, you already have the right to shoot them.

What’s with all the straw dogs - do you own a kennel of ‘em?

;-)

Acceptance of, and living one’s life according to, the American Founding Documents does not require a belief in G8d. But, as Will & Ariel Durant said, for most people, such a belief is essential if theya re to succeed in living a moral and ethical life.


322 posted on 05/25/2008 6:43:21 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: DannyTN

As usual, you are not.


411 posted on 01/07/2010 7:09:56 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: DannyTN

From what I have seen on FR, the atheists have higher morals than a lot of the YECers.


412 posted on 01/07/2010 7:13:45 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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