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To: LeGrande

Was that a condition to be with their children?
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No that was an offer by concerned people who work with abused women and recognized he long term effects on the women from the compound...

It took years for these women to get that way and it takes a long time for them to recover from their “stinkin thinkin”

(that merely means that their thinking is screwy and they dont recognize or acknowledge normalcy..)

No marks against the women...they are victims too...

But unless they realize that they are being abused and want help, they wont help their children or want to protect them...

These women suffer from a form of Sto9ckholm syndrome where they will protect their abusers...

Just like they are still controlled by Warren Jeffs...

the order to KEEP SWEET.. means to shut up and dont tell what is really going on..

Lie for him and pretend everything is hunky dory...

There are more signs in these women of the trauma of abuse than you can shake a stick at...

Over the weeks I’ve talked to some professional friends of mine about this case...

These women have to WANT to be helped...

If they all go back to the compound then Warren Jeffs and the olther abusers will have won and the hold on thesze women will be even greater..

I heard one say on a video..”there are no GOOD men” the answer to a question put to her was out of context..

What did that mean ????

Nobody asked and she didnt explain...

There are good men everywhere...I wonder if she ever looked..

FR is full of good men...

And there are many in TX, AZ and I guess in UT too..

Did she mean that she thought all men were evil ;like the ones in the comp[ound ????

Or the compound ones were kings and she one of several queens to one of them...

And all the men outside the compound were not “good”

That would be from brain washing ...

These women are not allowed to be free and have a thought of their own...

They dont even know how to smile naturally...


292 posted on 05/24/2008 8:25:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am not condemning the very noble goal of Texas and CPS in rescuing these people. What I am condemning is the method that they used.

First because the CPS did it improperly, the likely result is that that everyone will go back to the compound and the FLDS will be living off of the payments that the State of Texas is going to be making for a very long time.

Secondarily, but maybe more ominously, If the CPS is vindicated, their methods may become standard operating procedures and at that point our Constitutional rights will become meaningless. The precedent that this case could set could be huge. That terrifies me.


333 posted on 05/25/2008 8:20:28 AM PDT by LeGrande
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