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Texas Polygamy Case Based on a Lie
LiveScience.com ^ | Thu May 22, 5:50 PM ET | Benjamin Radford

Posted on 05/23/2008 10:12:33 AM PDT by LeGrande

"The raid ­- resulting in the largest child custody case in American history - was based on a lie."

"Police traced the calls to 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman named Rozita Swinton. Swinton had earlier been arrested for making a false report, and accused of posing as "Jennifer," 16, who called 911 to report that her father had locked her in a basement for days. Swinton may also have posed as thirteen-year-old Dana Anderson, who was being sexually abused by her pastor and raped by her father. There is no evidence that Sarah, Jennifer, or Dana exist. Swinton remains a "person of interest" in the case, but has not been charged in connection to the raid. "


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KEYWORDS: cps; cpswatch; custody; demlies; flds; jeffs; swinton; texas
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To: FastCoyote

Pictoral evidence?

If this is evidence, then provide the chain of evidence in writing.


141 posted on 05/24/2008 8:15:56 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: tueffelhunden

Precisely. Whatever the FDLS did or did not do, a lynching is not the way things work here in the USA.


142 posted on 05/24/2008 8:16:09 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: abb

They’d lynch us too just for defending Due Process and the rule of Law.

Law means nothing to them. Feelings are everything.


143 posted on 05/24/2008 8:17:22 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: abb

Here is the problem with the people who are rushing to judgement.

This video says it all and is the biggest problem we have in this country.

http://www.grasstopsusa.com/videoh2o.html


144 posted on 05/24/2008 8:18:44 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: abb

Clever. The Salem Witchcraft trial procedure. Except that’s pretty much the same process that every REAL CRIMINAL goes through. So by your impeccable reasoning, every jail in America should be emptied because all inmates went through a similar process of being accused, taken into custody, indicted, presented to a jury and then having a sentence given.

Well la dee dah, what is your counter proposal?


145 posted on 05/24/2008 8:20:12 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: tueffelhunden

[They’d lynch us too just for defending Due Process and the rule of Law.

Law means nothing to them. Feelings are everything.]

So, are you telling us there is no law being observed in Texas? Even though there is a family judge, and an appellate court, and an appeal of that ruling, and lawyers galore?

I guess you are saying there is total anarchy in Texas, that every single CPS agent, every single LEO, the judge, and every single person on the state of Texas side are evil people violating the law? Well I guess I know who wears the tin foil body suit now.


146 posted on 05/24/2008 8:24:09 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote
Well la dee dah, what is your counter proposal?

I'm pretty sure it's covered in here somewhere

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/txconst/toc.html
The Texas Constitution

If that one doesn't catch it all, then this one probably will.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
The United States Constitution

147 posted on 05/24/2008 8:27:49 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: tueffelhunden

“If this is evidence, then provide the chain of evidence in writing.”

I can no more provide the entire chain of evidence than you can provide a chain of evidence to the contrary (unless you happen to work for the court in Texas??)

What I can provide is victim accounts from women escaped from the FLDS, accounts of the Lost Boys, and historical accounts spanning 150 years of the same behavior. And you can provide what, bupkiss?.


148 posted on 05/24/2008 8:31:05 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: DannyTN
Nothing about the old guy kissing the 12 year old seems wrong to you?

Of course it disgusts me. Why would you send me a picture like that? What kind of perverted sexual deviant are you?

Of course, Jeffs is just doing exactly what Joseph Smith did.

And that is pertinent how? Do you have any evidence to support that claim? LOL You perverts really are disgusting.

149 posted on 05/24/2008 8:35:36 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: abb

That is no counterproposal, it is the same process as was used in the Witcraft trials. What you are confusing is legal procedure with bad jurisprudence. If a true killer had gone through the witchcraft trial procedure, the result would have been the same and a murderer hung - a just result.

So that makes your postings lame, since you miss the point that making witchcraft illegal was the true problem, not the legal process.

So, are you saying in the FLDS case that child molestation and polygamous marriage of the underaged should be legal? Because the legal procedings seem to be proceeding with Texas mandated checks and balances.


150 posted on 05/24/2008 8:36:11 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote

All I’m saying is there appears to be another witchhunt being ginned up in this case. I know what they look like - I have lived over two years of the Duke Lacrosse Frame, every day.

Maybe criminal acts took place in Texas. Maybe not. But I’m pathologically terrified of allowing Government to circumvent the law and the constitution because you say you can tell who are witches just by looking at them.

Get back to me when some evidence shows up.


151 posted on 05/24/2008 8:42:59 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: tueffelhunden; abb
Their hysteria proves it.

We are seeing it on display right now. I would be willing to bet that anyone who attempted to defend any of the witches, was beaten into submission either literally or figuratively.

152 posted on 05/24/2008 8:43:05 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: GourmetDan

The 4th? You mean the children should not be provided with the benefits of the 4th and just be chucked back in with people who aren’t even their relatives?


153 posted on 05/24/2008 8:44:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FastCoyote

Some of these guys sound like the pedophiles who used to glom onto any story over at AOL.com that involved young girls.


154 posted on 05/24/2008 8:46:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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-ATTENTION-
Anyone viewing this web page
is now guilty of possesion of kiddy-porn.
Please turn yourselves in to your local authorities
before they have to send in their swat teams.


155 posted on 05/24/2008 8:51:28 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: FastCoyote
That is no counterproposal, it is the same process as was used in the Witcraft trials. What you are confusing is legal procedure with bad jurisprudence.

You sexual deviants don't seem to understand the difference between dunking someone to determine guilt or innocence or presenting evidence in a court of law.

My fondest desire is that someday you get what you so fervently want others to get.

156 posted on 05/24/2008 8:54:37 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

You must have gone back to the beginning threads and worked forward to find that many supporters of freedom. Many posted once or twice and fled after being viciously attacked. It seemed to me there were many more in the lynch mob- I guess they were just louder and meaner! Your numbers give me more hope for this country.


157 posted on 05/24/2008 9:00:58 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: muawiyah
"The 4th? You mean the children should not be provided with the benefits of the 4th and just be chucked back in with people who aren’t even their relatives?"

Are they with relatives now?

Is 'foster care' now considered a 'benefit' of the 4th Amendment?

158 posted on 05/24/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: firewalk

When I saw her on TV I thought she looked familiar and the newscaster mentioned it.She looked like a b....,and acted high and mighty.I wondered how she kept her job.I live in Texas and remember Waco very well.I may be wrong but I do not think so.
I may not agree with the teachings and goings on,but we have a constitution for a reason as they are finding out as I type.
I feel sad for the children who are probably very confused.
What is very scary is it all started with an anonymous phone call.I am glad I get on with my neighbors lest they place an anonymous phone call accusing me of something heinous!
They were premature as to wanting to seize the compound to cover the costs for their expenses.Something smelled fishy there.When a friend and I discussed this as it unfolded,one of our theories were,someone wants the prime piece of property.
I believe the “Churches” teachings,if you call it that,is disgusting.But bypassing normal procedures is not the way of going about it.


159 posted on 05/24/2008 9:02:31 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: muawiyah; FastCoyote
Some of these guys sound like the pedophiles who used to glom onto any story over at AOL.com that involved young girls.

Why don't you take your sick little perversions elsewhere? Posting those pictures and accusing us won't work. We are onto you.

160 posted on 05/24/2008 9:04:09 AM PDT by LeGrande
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