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Is the US ignoring a fuel alternative?
Boston Globe ^ | 5-23-08 | Clifford Atiyeh

Posted on 05/23/2008 6:18:33 AM PDT by NoLibZone

Europeans can buy cars that run on natural gas from at least eight automakers, but despite large reserves of the relatively inexpensive fuel in the United States, the federal government and states, including Massachusetts, are backing pricier biofuels as a way to lessen dependence on imported oil.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alternativefuel; cng; energy; gas
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1 posted on 05/23/2008 6:18:34 AM PDT by NoLibZone
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One word. Infrastructure.


2 posted on 05/23/2008 6:37:19 AM PDT by saganite
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To: NoLibZone

Why DON’T we use natural gas?

Would using it in cars increase prices due to higher demand, making it a moot point AND increasing our heating costs?


3 posted on 05/23/2008 6:39:11 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: NoLibZone
Is the US ignoring a fuel alternative?

Yes, they US is ignoring nuclear. The US is also ignoring the great oil resources in the Gulf and in Alaska that a plan to tap would at least put some pressure on the market to lower prices.

4 posted on 05/23/2008 6:42:22 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NoLibZone

Get onboard with this new technology. We can only hope that is is half as successful as it looks to be. http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Fuel_Efficiency_Alternative_Fuels Here is a great interview that explains what is going on> http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/ORLANDO-FL/WFLF-AM/jc_bell_gas_3-20-08.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=ORLANDO-FL&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=1140&STATION_ID=WFLF-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=Jimmy_D.&PCAST_CAT=Talk&PCAST_TITLE=Bud_Hedinger_Live_Afternoons_3p-6


5 posted on 05/23/2008 6:43:28 AM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: NoLibZone

We could seriously reduce our reliance on foreign oil if we mandated that no electricity be generated from nat gas plants. Currently 25% of our electicity is generated that way. If we went on crash course to replace it with clean coal, nuclear, solar and wind, we could us the nat gas wasted on generating electricity to power public transport in the US. Kansas City I believe already runs their buses this way. Currently oil is twice as expensive as nat gas per btu unit, even with nat gas at historic highs. By eliminating nat gas from electric generation, more than enough would be freed up to power vehicles. Once gas demand dropped, oil would follow qucikly. Tap into Alaska, outer continental shelf and public lands, and we would be on the road to energy independance within 20 years. All we need is the political will to say screw the envirowakco.marxist Branch Algorians.

The politcal class still does not get it. Today on CNBC they showed a survey of who was to blame for high gas prices . CONGRESS led the way with 30%, Pres Bush was 17% and big oil was only 3.7%!


6 posted on 05/23/2008 6:44:47 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: saganite
"One word. Infrastructure."

I have natural gas, so I could use it for local travel. The problem for me would be retro-fitting for on-board storage.

7 posted on 05/23/2008 6:45:40 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: NoLibZone
Natural gas takes as much energy to compress and liquefy the energy in the gas. That means 50% is wasted before it is even used.
8 posted on 05/23/2008 6:46:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: NoLibZone

Schwan’s have been using LP to fuel their fleet of trucks for years now.


9 posted on 05/23/2008 6:47:39 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: RockinRight
If you go back over the last ten years you may find that natural gas has seen dramatic price swings. It may be cheaper right now, but I'm not sure it would stay that way if we started using large quantities of it for something other than its current "normal" use (home heating, electricity generation, etc.).

Look what happened to the price of corn after the government mandated ethanol blends.

10 posted on 05/23/2008 6:50:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
I have natural gas, so I could use it for local travel. The problem for me would be retro-fitting for on-board storage.

Stick a hose up through the driver's seat and apply some duct tape. That would probably do the trick. ;-)

11 posted on 05/23/2008 6:51:19 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: NoLibZone

You mean personal methane reclamation?


12 posted on 05/23/2008 6:52:18 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: NoLibZone

Natural Gas Fueling Station Locations
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html


13 posted on 05/23/2008 6:52:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: NoLibZone
If the vehicles in the US all ran on Natural Gas then because of a lack of coal or nuclear power plants the home electric cost would rise. When Katrina hit 25% of NG was taken off the market and the price doubled. Take 25% and put it in vehicles the price will again double.
14 posted on 05/23/2008 6:55:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: NoLibZone
There is a huge natural gas field just off the tip of Cape Cod. However, Massachusetts forbids tapping into it. So, the same field that goes up into Canada, is tapped by Canadians, and then piped down into Massachusetts.

Duh. Kennedy Country.

15 posted on 05/23/2008 6:56:05 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: NoLibZone

Guide to Available Natural Gas Vehicles and Engines
http://www.ngvamerica.org/pdfs/marketplace/MP.Analyses.NGVs-a.pdf


16 posted on 05/23/2008 6:57:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: tobyhill
Oh. You are one of THOSE people. A SUPPLY AND DEMAND type.

(/sarcasm off)

17 posted on 05/23/2008 6:58:53 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: RockinRight
Why DON’T we use natural gas? Would using it in cars increase prices due to higher demand, making it a moot point AND increasing our heating costs?

You answered your own question.

18 posted on 05/23/2008 6:59:51 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park". We are so screwed.)
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To: r9etb

Leave it to professionals.

19 posted on 05/23/2008 7:01:03 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: r9etb
"I have natural gas, so I could use it for local travel. The problem for me would be retro-fitting for on-board storage."

"Stick a hose up through the driver's seat and apply some duct tape. That would probably do the trick. ;-)"

And, Dem drivers could just wear a face mask and talk socialist politics while they drive. Yeh, that will work.

20 posted on 05/23/2008 7:01:30 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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