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Shamnesty John McCain is back in full force: No, he never “got the message”
Michelle Malkin.com ^ | 05/22/2008 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/22/2008 11:46:28 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: Will88
McCain and a Dem. Congress will do more damage than Obama and a Dem. Congress. The Republicans would fight most Obama initiatives, but go along with too many by McCain.

Exactly right. Just as the RINOs went along with Bush on amnesty and spending. And Bush and Rove verbally attacked the conservatives that stood firm (like Tancredo). McCain will be every more nasty, vile-tempered little man that he is. With a dem, the conservatives will be free to remain conservatives without the dilemma of opposing their president and risking losing GOP funding for their next election and many RINOs will follow suit.

The SCOTUS thing is greatly overrated for the next few years. The most likely retirees are libs, and McCain could only get confirmed those pre-approved by Leahy and Kennedy. No more Roberts or Alitos for the next few years, no matter the campaign rhetoric.

McCain already said he would NOT appoint a conservative like Alito. And he voted for Ginsburg. That says it all about what we'll get out of him.
81 posted on 05/23/2008 7:57:49 AM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: Clairity
Sure, Barack Hussein Obama would be SOOOO MUCH better. (SARCASM on my part, but apparently a lot of others here seem to believe that he would be preferable to McCain)

You're not understanding the big picture. Nobody here is saying that Obama as a candidate is better than McCain on the issues. But Obama would be opposed by the Republicans in congress, while McCain - with the exact same liberal legislation - would be followed over the cliff by those same Republicans. McCain will tarnish the GOP and any future election chances, while Obama would likely cause a Carter-like reaction and in the end, help the cause. You need to think beyond the simple single issues, because while McCain is not much better than the dems - he can cause much more long-term damage to the country and conservatism.
82 posted on 05/23/2008 8:12:06 AM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: Liberty2007

The charlatan who is Mike Huckabee is the main reason that FTD is not our nominee and John McCain is.

Huckabee latched on to the “Fair tax” and got many even here on this board to believe him sincere, even though his past governorship showed no fiscal restraint, let alone any desire to change the tax apparatus of the state.

But it was a item he used with gullible people along with his cut and paste immigration policy taken straight from National Review.

Now as he is jockeying to be McCain’s VP, the Huckster will never mention the “Fair tax” again, as he is only interested in being McCain’s chosen one.

So IMO, Huck the weasel and the “Fair tax” gave us John McCain.


83 posted on 05/23/2008 8:21:06 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ronald Reagan Fought Regulation, John McCain Brought Regulation...)
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To: CottonBall

“But Obama would be opposed by the Republicans in congress”

Sure — that and a dollar won’t get you a cup of coffee.

Look at the recent Republican losses. If Obama wins, he will also have a Dem majority in Congress, possibly even a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

Obama and the Dem Congress will have NOTHING standing in their way to implement their far left anti-American agenda, including stuffing the courst with leftist activist judges, and all Republicans will be able to do is whine, because they won’t be able to mount any kind of effective opposition.

They would do irreparable damage to the country.

As for Carter, he did irreparable damage to the country. If it hadn’t been for Carter, we would have a pro-US government in Iran, instead of the Ayatollas who are sending “insurgents” to Iraq to kill our soldiers, intend to nuke Israel and us.


84 posted on 05/23/2008 8:23:50 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

I know there will be a Dem majority in Congress - but they will still have to debate their legislation and that brings it to the attention of the public and the moderate Dems. With McCain in office, the Rs won’t bother to oppose the liberal legislation, but with Obama - they will. Look at the recent amnesty provisions in the war funding bill. Those 4 were taken out due to public response - initiated by conservative opposition in the Senate.

McCain will also have a Dem congress to pass his liberal legislation with. I’d rather that be tied to the Dems’ reputation and not hailed as ‘bipartisan’ or even worse, tarnishing the GOP even more.

Carter was bad and did temporary damage. But we did get Reagan after him and the economic problems were fixed. Once McCain screws up the country, where will we turn then? The GOP will be tarnished and people will associate the problems with it.

You are under the incorrect premise that McCain will somehow govern as a conservative. Bush didn’t. McCain is to the far left of Bush. Being in denial doesn’t change that.


85 posted on 05/23/2008 8:32:38 AM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: antisocial

I wonder if he really is a roofing contractor. I just had my roof replaced my wife says Mexicans came to do it. I am away in Iraq, I wasnt too happy about it. If I had been there I wouldve asked the contractor if he was using illegals. I paid 1700, I wouldve went to 2500. this is not a big house either.


86 posted on 05/23/2008 8:58:07 AM PDT by Liberty2007 ( Send your Prayers to Lebanon and Israel)
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To: Sloth

I got the meaning of that graphic, good job, I was about to explain it to him.


87 posted on 05/23/2008 9:00:02 AM PDT by Liberty2007 ( Send your Prayers to Lebanon and Israel)
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To: Liz

Dang girl, yer pretty hardline on them folks.


88 posted on 05/23/2008 9:02:57 AM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: Sybeck1

FTD is why FTD isnt the candidate, he didnt act like he wanted it. I agree between huck,romney,mcain,rooty, ftd was by far better. but the best ones are Hunter and Tancredo.


89 posted on 05/23/2008 9:03:22 AM PDT by Liberty2007 ( Send your Prayers to Lebanon and Israel)
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To: Night Hides Not

LOL (laughing to keep from crying)


90 posted on 05/23/2008 9:30:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Luke21
I voted for the last “war hero.” I held my nose though I wanted to puke. Dole was the biggest accomodationist in Washington.

I didn't like Dole either. I hated the fact that we let the Dems and the media pick our candidate for us (and it looks like they got us again).

At least Dole had enough class to resign his seat in the Senate when he ran for the Presidency. If all three of the current Senators running would do the same, we'd be rid of at least two of them in January....a net plus!

91 posted on 05/23/2008 9:31:27 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: thelastvirgil

I will be voting for Obama in the hopes that he throws black folks a bone and runs the illegals out.


92 posted on 05/23/2008 9:35:01 AM PDT by winodog (We have been set up for Hillary)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
A natural born tagline, if ever I've seen one! ;)

After thinking about it for a few hours, I've decided to make the change. Thanks for the idea!

93 posted on 05/23/2008 9:37:11 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

bump


94 posted on 05/23/2008 9:37:20 AM PDT by VOA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; All

I think that the WORST possible message Conservatives can send to the Republican Party is NOT to vote -— because then they can say that “Conservatives don’t matter, don’t care — or don’t exist”.

Voting for McCain and just going along with the program, is just as bad for the same reasons because it can also be interpreted as “we don’t care, don’t matter and are just willing to go along with corruption of Conservative principles”.

Voting for Obama also says that we either don’t exist or have become “converts to Socialism”.

If we want to make a point, we MUST find a a way to be “counted” somewhere, as doing something!

I am not crazy about this idea, but it is growing on me — and seems to me to be the best of some of the otherwise useless protests: “Vote Third Party”.

If Bob Barr, gets the Libertarian nomination, in fact, Bob Barr will be the most Conservative Presidential Nominee in the Race —with a Lifetime ACU rating of 98% — and that is no “compromise”.

To vote Libertarian, in this case, would mean some “nose-holding” for many as hanging out with the pro-Marijuana group and anti-war crowd, will be a real stretch.

But have no fear, because Barr’s chances of winning are very low, however YOUR VOTE WILL BE COUNTED, it would make McCain lose and the Republican Party would realize that they can’t win another election without Conservatives!

The alternatives of passively sulking and not voting, or voting for Obama, will make Obama win, but it will also only prove that “Conservatives can successfully be ignored”.

Actively voting (but not for McCain or Obama) will tell the Republican Party that “CONSERVATIVES CAN’T BE IGNORED” and they can’t win an election without us.


95 posted on 05/23/2008 10:44:57 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Liz; calcowgirl; Calpernia; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; ...
We can't tell this joke too often.

Q: How can you tell Juan MacCain is lying?

A: His lips are moving.

96 posted on 05/23/2008 12:32:47 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Better to have your enemy before you than beside you or behind you.)
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To: E. Cartman
Amended:

Q: How can you tell Juan MacCain is lying?

A: His supporters' lips are moving.

97 posted on 05/23/2008 12:39:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: kingu
The only difference is that McCain /is/ a sucker for opinion polls. Which means we gotta keep the fire lit and raging under him the entire time he’ll be in office.

Wow. I see it completely the opposite. Obama and Hillary want a political future, so they will bow to the will. McCain doesn't give a damn. He proved that with the last amnesty bill. When other Republicans started getting the message, he dug in deeper.

Actually, Obama is the blank slate. I don't know if he'll cave or not. Hillary would for sure and has over things like licenses for illegals.

There's nobody for me to vote for, but amnesty is the thing that drives McCain. I won't help him ruin this country, and if any of the three will destroy America, it won't be with my help.
98 posted on 05/23/2008 2:30:01 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: E. Cartman

And watch him when he talks about amnesty (SW giveaway), the Hundred Year War, and kicking conservatives to the curb. His posture changes......as his leash is being tightened.


99 posted on 05/23/2008 2:30:38 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I love your posts. Keep fighting the good fight.


100 posted on 05/23/2008 2:32:23 PM PDT by Rastus
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