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To: fish hawk; madprof98
You forgot: and make vote him into Sainthood.

Just because some Cardinals might go to Teddy's funeral and not chastise him publicly for his abortion views doesn't mean anyone will be recommending him for sainthood. It just means they have a little bit of class. The funeral is for the surviving family members, and it is beyond reprehensible to talk bad about someone at their own funeral.

Besides, neither you, nor anyone else will have any idea whether or not he repented of his sins as he neared death. I pray that he does, and by doing so, can have a full Catholic funeral, but I also believe that he will be a LONG time in Purgatory, not being able to see the full Glory of God, because he'll have to atone for the part he played in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, and of all those unborn babies.

24 posted on 05/24/2008 10:26:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I was only joking about the Sainthood but after reading your post I would suspect that IF they did vote him into Sainthood you would find a nice excuse for it. After all it is the Church that is doing it and we know you can’t go against your church. I have nothing against Catholicism except for the fact that the sheep are sheepish. They know right and wrong like all the rest of us but have to have the church tell them which is which. That above all else. That my friend is how Protestants came into being. Someone wanted to think for themselves, face their God directly and cut out the middle man.


25 posted on 05/24/2008 11:31:37 PM PDT by fish hawk (Silence is often misinterpreted but never misquoted.)
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To: SuziQ
It just means they have a little bit of class. The funeral is for the surviving family members, and it is beyond reprehensible to talk bad about someone at their own funeral.

Class? There was a time when Catholics recognized that a church burial had to be preceded by a life of at least outward conformity to the Catholic faith. Now we'll bury any corpse that comes with a wad of cash. This is supposed to show we have compassion. What it actually shows is that we have no more principles that the faithless departed.

31 posted on 05/25/2008 5:37:23 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: SuziQ

Ted Kennedy should NOT have a Catholic funeral, because he is, so far, an unrepentant mass murderer, not a practicing Catholic.

The Church does not allow Catholic funerals for notorious, unrepentant Mafia dons.

And if the funeral is “for the living,” then Kennedy should not have a Catholic funeral, because his entire family are publicly pro-abortion—which means they are all ex-Catholics.

If Archbishop O’Malley or Archbishop Wuerl allows either a funeral Mass or a memorial Mass for a mass murdering anti-Catholic ex-Catholic, then neither one of them is really in communion with the Catholic Church.

The only circumstance in which Kennedy should have a Catholic funeral is if, before his death, he unequivocally repents, and unequivocally affirms what he has denied for forty years: that abortion is homicide; that it is the duty of the State to proscribe and punish abortion; that it is the duty of every Catholic to support laws which proscribe and punish abortion. The only circumstance in which his family should be allowed to receive Communion at his funeral or at ANY Mass is if they make the same public, unequivocal acts of repentance, and public affirmation of the truths they have, so far, denied.

None of this will take place. The Kennedys will have yet another big, splashy Catholic funeral, celebrated by yet another fawning toady of a priest, at which Teddy will be canonized, and abortion and all the other evils the entire Kennedy family supports will not be mentioned. Archbishops O’Malley and Wuerl will be hiding out in an undisclosed location.


32 posted on 05/25/2008 7:19:08 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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