Posted on 05/22/2008 12:13:34 PM PDT by redtetrahedron
Sen. John McCain has long presented himself as that rare bird in politics: an inveterate straight-shooter. But does campaign strain have McCain’s Straight Talk Express veering off course?
A string of incidents stemming from the senator’s two presidential runs suggests he’s no less fallible than any other candidate — and just as capable of adjusting facts to suit his purpose.
1. Confederate Flag Over South Carolina Capitol, April 19, 2000 During the run-up to the South Carolina Republican primary in February 2000, McCain was asked whether he felt the Confederate flag should be removed from atop the statehouse.
Non-truth: McCain stated publicly that it was up to South Carolinians to decide.
Truth: Two months later McCain said he believed “the flag should be removed” from the Capitol. “I feared that if I answered honestly, I could not win the South Carolina primary. So I chose to compromise my principles,” he said. “I broke my promise to always tell the truth.”
Source: “Excerpts from McCain’s Remarks on Confederate Flag,” New York Times, April 20, 2000.
(Excerpt) Read more at elections.foxnews.com ...
It’s not the primary anymore...
I don’t think holding my nose will be enough when I enter the voting booth in November; I’m going to need a pooper scooper, Maximum Strength Febreeze, and I may even have to go to confession afterwards.
It’s not the primary anymore...Tell Fox News. They ran on on Hillary yesterday, and the next one is on Obama. Are we supposed to whitewash our candidate now that we're stuck with him?
Hell no - that's the province of "Bob J" and his McCain Lie of the Day post!
Should McCain become POTUS, his SCOTUS nominations will tell the tale.
Well, some of us have trouble voting for a leftist regardless of party affiliation. Voting for leftists only seems to encourage them.
Let’s be FAIR and BALANCED, shall we? Here was the FIRST candidate they did. Hillary Clinton. I only posted “parts” of the interview. Obamma’s will be Friday. It was Clinton Wednesday, McCain Thursday and Obamma Friday. Here is the link for an unedited version of Clinton’s list (edited with my personal fav’s listed of course!)
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/21/trail-of-tall-tales-hillary-clinton/
Trail of Tall Tales: Hillary Clinton
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Wednesday, May 21, 2008
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Wednesday: Hillary Rodham Clinton smiles with her daughter, Chelsea, as she’s introduced at a campaign event in Boca Raton, Fla. (AP Photo)
Editor’s Note: This is the first in a three-part series focusing on misstatements, prevarications and falsehoods proclaimed by the three major presidential candidates.
Sen. Hillary Clinton presents the image of a seasoned, ever-disciplined politician whose experience as first lady and a New York senator makes her ready to be commander-in-chief. But a series of misstatements — exaggerations, half-truths and lies — made by Clinton over the last 15 years have at times undermined her image and called her credibility into question.
1. Travelgate, June 23, 2000
An investigation was launched into the firing of seven long-time employees of the White House travel office, all of whom were replaced with friends and relatives of the Clintons.
Non-truth: In a sworn deposition to the General Accounting Office, Clinton was asked if she had any involvement in the decision to fire the staffers: “No, I did not,” she replied. She said she did not know the “origin of the decision” to fire the staffers, “had no role in the decision to terminate the employees” and “did not direct that any action be taken by anyone” regarding the matter.
Truth: The Office of Independent Counsel investigating it and other matters found “overwhelming evidence that she in fact did have a role in the decision to fire the employees” and that her testimony was “factually false.”
Sources: “Honesty: Hillary’s Glass House,” National Journal, Dec. 10, 2007; “Testimony About Travel-Office Dismissals,” New York Times, Oct. 19, 2000; “The First Lady Is Chided, But Not Charged,” New York Times, June 23, 2000.
2. Iraq War Vote, Jan. 13, 2008
On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Clinton was asked about her 2002 vote to authorize the use of force against Iraq. Her vote helped authorize President Bush to use force in Iraq if diplomatic efforts failed to disband a nuclear weapons program that Saddam Hussein was believed to have developed.
Non-truth: Clinton insisted it was “not a vote for preemptive war.”
“It was a vote to put inspectors back in to determine what threat Saddam Hussein did in fact pose,” Clinton said.
Truth: On Oct. 10, 2002, on the Senate floor, Clinton said, “This is a very difficult vote … any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”
Sources: “Meet the Press,” NBC, Jan. 13, 2008;” Hillary Rodham Clinton official Senate Web site.
3. Sniper Fire, March 17, 2008
In 1996 Clinton visited Bosnia as first lady.
Non-truth: She told an audience at the George Washington University that she remembered “landing under sniper fire.”
“There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base,” she said. She made similar comments to other audiences.
Truth: Videotape of her arrival at Tuzla Air Base shows Clinton walking off the plane, greeting troops and walking calmly around camp. She is then met by a young girl who reads her a poem.
Clinton has admitted she “misspoke,” calling her story a “minor blip.” She attributed the misstatement to campaign fatigue. “I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I’m human, which you know, for some people, is a revelation.”
Sources: “Clinton Recalls Bosnia Trip as Dangerous,” Associated Press, March 17, 2008; “New CBS Video Contradicts Clinton Again,” CBS News, March 25, 2008; “Clinton Says She Erred on Bosnia Story,” Associated Press, March 25, 2008.
4. Vince Foster Documents, April 22, 1994
After the suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, First Lady Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff Maggie Williams had documents removed from Foster’s office.
Half-truth: During a press conference, Clinton was asked why Williams was involved in removing the documents. Clinton responded: “I don’t know that she did remove any documents.”
Truth: Clinton administrations officials later acknowledged that the first lady requested the documents be removed and turned over to Williams. Williams was told to store the papers in the White House residence, where Clinton’s personal attorney later picked them up.
Source: “The Whitewater Affair: Excerpts From Hillary Clinton’s News Session on Whitewater,” New York Times, April 23, 1994; “Whitewater File Was Kept at White House Residence; Foster Office Papers Stored for Several Days,” The Washington Post, Aug. 2, 1994.
6. Brokering Irish Peace, Jan. 6, 2008
Non truth: In Nashua, N.H., Clinton told supporters that when she was first lady she organized a town hall in Belfast, Ireland, to help promote peace talks between Catholics and Protestants.
“I remember a meeting that I pulled together in Belfast, in the town hall there, bringing together for the first time Catholics and Protestants from both traditions, having them sitting in a room where they had never been before with each other because they don’t go to school together, they don’t live together; and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there,” Clinton said.
Truth: There is no record of such a meeting at Belfast City Hall. The former first lady held a 50-minute meeting of Catholic and Protestant women at a Belfast café on Nov. 30, 1995, arranged by the U.S. Embassy, and she attended a Christmas tree lighting ceremony with President Clinton at Belfast City Hall.
Sources: “Nobel Winner: Hillary Clinton’s ‘Silly’ Irish Peace Claims,” Telegraph, March 8, 2008; “Hillary Clinton Hears How Hatred Is Buried,” Reuters News, Nov. 30, 1995. “First Lady Hears Voice of Women: Hillary, Bill Clinton in Northern Ireland,” The Times (UK), Dec. 1, 1995.
7. Chelsea Jogging, Sept. 17, 2001
Non-truth: Clinton told NBC’s Jane Pauley that her daughter, Chelsea, went jogging on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, and had planned to run near the World Trade Center.
“She’d gone, what she thought would be just a great jog,” Clinton said. “She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers.”
Truth: In a Nov. 9, 2001, article in Talk magazine, Chelsea Clinton never wrote she went jogging on Sept. 11, 2001. Instead, Clinton said she was alone inside a friend’s apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane struck the World Trade Center. She watched the second plane hit the South Tower on her friend’s television.
Sources: “Today Show,” NBC News, Sept. 18, 2001; “Chelsea Clinton Speaks Out for the First Time in a Personal Account of the September 11 Tragedy and Its Aftermath,” Talk, Nov. 9, 2001.
9. Refugee Borders, March 12, 2008
Non-truth: Clinton said in a cable news interview that she “negotiated open borders” in Macedonia to fleeing Kosovar refugees.
Truth: Macedonia’s ambassador to the U.S. at the time, Ljubica Acevska, said during a March 2008 interview with National Public Radio that her government always had a policy to allow refugees’ passage into the country.
11. National Guard Health Insurance, Dec. 20, 2007
Non-truth: Clinton’s television ad, “Guard,” which ran in New Hampshire, claimed National Guard and Army Reserve personnel had no health insurance until she and Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham took action.
“You would think that after all the sacrifices and service of the National Guard and Reserve protecting our country, they would have had health insurance. But they didn’t,” Clinton says in the ad. “So I reached across the aisle and worked for three years with Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican, to change that. Now every member of the Guard and Reserve has access to the health coverage they need.”
Truth: Before Clinton took office, all active-duty Guard and Reserve troops were covered by federal insurance, and four out of five non-active-duty National Guardsmen and Reservists were covered by their civilian employers or other sources.
Source: “Exaggerating Help For Troops,” FactCheck.org, Dec. 20, 2007.
Thursday: John McCain
Friday: Barack Obama
Be fair, now. Those McCain 2008 Commemorative Combination Bobblehead Dolls and Vibrators take one sweet holy heck of a lot of posting points, after all. ;)
(Just posted this on another thread a few minutes ago)
For any FReeper or lurker interested...
Looking back through my FReepmail yesterday FReeper (no longer on forum?)Kind Sir sent me this link on 4/14/2001.
I clicked on it and was surprised to see it was still active.
(FWIW...JM was last on my list of pubbies, but I will vote for him over Barack or Hillary)
Until Barack "G*d D*mn America" Obama is defeated in November, that might be a tactically wise move.
You can bet your bippy that, until November, the Democrats and the liberal media will be demonizing McCain, whitewashing Obama and ignoring the fact that the war is being won in Iraq.
I cannot believe McCain’s words - he lies like a sociopath. Instead, I have to look at his past behavior to predict his future behavior and factor in his apparent mental issues.
McCain isn’t a leftisit...I didn’t want him as the nominee either, and I disagree with him on many issues, but he’s not a “leftist,” and since, like it or not, he will be our nominee (by GOP voter choice), every shot we take at him helps the true leftist in this campaign - Obama.
Clinton has always been a liar, that’s her short list.
You just HAD to mention vibrators, didn’t you...
Check your mail.
#5, the tale of the Kerry vp-ship is a bit twisted in this version.
Per more recent versions, it was a McCain staffer who contacted the Kerry campaign. [Why would a staffer do that unless instructed to do so?]
The version posted by FoxNews seems to give McCain credible deniability.
You know that Obama and Hillary are lying when their lips are moving. It’s harder to pick up with McCain because he’s so talented at speaking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. Follow the money and his walking pattern across the aisle if you can keep up with the schizoid pattern he moves by.
Not at all. You know Juan's lying whenever his supporters' lips are moving. ;)
Meaning?
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