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Federal court rules against military gays policy
AP ^ | 5/21/2008 | GENE JOHNSON

Posted on 05/21/2008 9:20:22 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky

SEATTLE (AP) — The military cannot automatically discharge people because they're gay, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in the case of a decorated flight nurse who sued the Air Force over her dismissal.

The three judges from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals did not strike down the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. But they reinstated Maj. Margaret Witt's lawsuit, saying the Air Force must prove that her dismissal furthered the military's goals of troop readiness and unit cohesion.

The "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue, don't harass" policy prohibits the military from asking about the sexual orientation of service members but requires discharge of those who acknowledge being gay or engaging in homosexual activity.

Wednesday's ruling led opponents of the policy to declare its days numbered. It is also the first appeals court ruling in the country that evaluated the policy through the lens of a 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down a Texas ban on sodomy as an unconstitutional intrusion on privacy.

When gay service members have sued over their dismissals, courts historically have accepted the military's argument that having gays in the service is generally bad for morale and can lead to sexual tension.

But the Supreme Court's opinion in the Texas case changed the legal landscape, the judges said, and requires more scrutiny over whether "don't ask, don't tell" is constitutional as applied in individual cases.

Under Wednesday's ruling, military officials "need to prove that having this particular gay person in the unit really hurts morale, and the only way to improve morale is to discharge this person," said Aaron Caplan, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington state who worked on the case.

Witt, a flight nurse based at McChord Air Force Base near Tacoma, was suspended without pay in 2004 after the Air Force received a tip that she had been in a long-term relationship with a civilian woman. Witt was honorably discharged in October 2007 after having put in 18 years — two short of what she needed to receive retirement benefits.

She sued the Air Force in 2006, but U.S. District Judge Ronald B. Leighton dismissed her claims, saying the Supreme Court's ruling in Lawrence v. Texas did not change the legality of "don't ask, don't tell."

The appeals court judges disagreed.

"When the government attempts to intrude upon the personal and private lives of homosexuals, the government must advance an important governmental interest ... and the intrusion must be necessary to further that interest," wrote Judge Ronald M. Gould.

One of the judges, William C. Canby Jr., issued a partial dissent, saying that the ruling didn't go far enough. He argued that the Air Force should have to show that the policy itself "is necessary to serve a compelling governmental interest and that it sweeps no more broadly than necessary."

Gay service members who are discharged can sue in federal court, and if the military doesn't prove it had a good reason for the dismissal, the cases will go forward, Caplan said.

Another attorney for Witt, James Lobsenz, hailed the ruling as the beginning of the end for "don't ask, don't tell."

"If the various branches of the Armed Forces have to start proving each application of the policy makes sense, then it's not going to be only Maj. Witt who's going to win," Lobsenz said. "Eventually, they're going to say, 'This is dumb. ... It's time to scrap the policy.'"

An Air Force spokeswoman said she had no comment on the decision and directed inquiries to the Defense Department.

Lt. Col. Todd Vician, a Defense spokesman, said he did not know specifics of the case and could not comment beyond noting that "the DOD policy simply enacts the law as set forth by Congress."

Witt joined the Air Force in 1987 and switched from active duty to the reserves in 1995. She cared for injured patients on military flights and in operating rooms. She was promoted to major in 1999, and she deployed to Oman in 2003 in support of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan.

A citation from President Bush that year said, "Her airmanship and courage directly contributed to the successful accomplishment of important missions under extremely hazardous conditions."

Her suspension and discharge came during a shortage of flight nurses and outraged many of her colleagues — one of whom, a sergeant, retired in protest.

"I am thrilled by the court's recognition that I can't be discharged without proving that I was harmful to morale," Witt said in a statement. "I am proud of my career and want to continue doing my job. Wounded people never asked me about my sexual orientation. They were just glad to see me there."


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KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; usmilitary
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Representative Republic? A democratic form of government? No. This is judicial dictatorship.
1 posted on 05/21/2008 9:20:23 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
This puts the 9th Circus on the side of the folks at Abu Ghraib who stacked up the naked POWs and had them engage in simulated sex.

The 9th Circus judges are all so terribly crude (and predictable). Makes me feel dirty even reading about them.

2 posted on 05/21/2008 9:26:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ol' Sparky

Impeach them all!


3 posted on 05/21/2008 9:27:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Ol' Sparky

The clowns from the infamous 9th Circus are at it again! Cue the calliope.


4 posted on 05/21/2008 9:35:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Don Corleone

ya know it wasnt until the turn of the century in the early 1900’s that the Executive or Legislative branch gave a rats ass about what the Supreme Court had to say about anything other than The Judicial Branch of Government. The Three Branches of Government are separate but equal. The Supreme Court only Governs The Judicial Branch, yes the Executive Branch can tell them to go pound sand (Andrew Jackson) and of course the Legislative Branch has the power under the Constitution to limit what the Supreme Court can do. So when we start electing people that can actually read, we will be enslaved to the Tyrannical Branch of Government.

My first step would be to immediately implement the “Missing 13th Amendment” Titles of Nobility Amendment. If you have never heard of it well you can look it up. and Yes it is TRUE. Only the Secretary of State can revive it. If we actually had a Statesman as President. So we are screwed cuz I don’t see any true Americans on the Horizon, just a bunch of junior Marxists.

One World, one people
open borders
free trade
Central Bank
debt based monetary system

Karl Marx


5 posted on 05/21/2008 9:41:21 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Ol' Sparky

God help the military!

6 posted on 05/21/2008 9:56:35 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: Ol' Sparky

Why does the Air Force need to show a reason to make this person leave the force? They don’t.

Collect your unemployment and move on with your life.


7 posted on 05/21/2008 10:23:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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To: Ol' Sparky

They’ll never learn that the miltary isn’t a social experiment.


8 posted on 05/21/2008 10:40:42 PM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Sign of things to come.......its scary.....special elections.....polls.......lack of enthusiasm and funds......everything going right for Homos......

Next few years are going to be pure hell.....

God help us.


9 posted on 05/21/2008 11:35:22 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: wagglebee
Like, *PING*, -- dude or dude-ette? I never bothered to ask your sex.

Cheers!

10 posted on 05/22/2008 3:44:50 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Something like this happened under Clinton. Some court ordered the DOD to reinstate a (discharged) gay AF officer. Clinton stepped in, said he was CINC, and that the court had no jurisdiction. He told them to pound sand and it worked. Bush should do the same.


11 posted on 05/22/2008 3:46:08 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81
Agreed...the 9th Circus has no jurisdiction over the military as far as policy.

There's a reason for that policy and the policy itself does not prevent homosexuals from serving in the military as long as they keep their private lives under wraps. It is going on at this very moment in all branches.

Adultery is considered conduct unbecoming and soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines can all be DD'd because of that specific behavior...though rare.

IOW, that regulation has to be tossed too as well as all other immoral sexual conduct.

Then again we're talking about the 9th Circus and a bunch of delusional judges on that bench.

12 posted on 05/22/2008 5:38:11 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt
Then again we're talking about the 9th Circus and a bunch of delusional judges on that bench.

They aren't delusional. They know exactly what they're doing.

13 posted on 05/22/2008 5:43:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yes...they know they can legislate from the bench now and force BS into the system instead of interpret the law(s) as is for enforcement.


14 posted on 05/22/2008 6:26:47 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Ol' Sparky

“A citation from President Bush that year said, “Her airmanship and courage directly contributed to the successful accomplishment of important missions under extremely hazardous conditions.””

Give me a break! That’s standard wording for an award where someone showed up for work regularly. It isn’t as though the POTUS was giving her personal praise!

Stupid reporters...


15 posted on 05/22/2008 6:34:21 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Actually, for what it is worth I split with the conservative viewpoint on this issue. I think we are better served with experienced medical personnel regardless of their orientation and lets face it, don’t ask, don’t tell seems dishonorable or at least avoiding the issue. Gay patriots should be allowed to serve their country IMO.


16 posted on 05/22/2008 7:47:28 AM PDT by shakespeare_101
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To: shakespeare_101
Gay patriots should be allowed to serve their country IMO.

You've never served, have you?

17 posted on 05/22/2008 7:49:33 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (From "hooah!" to "meh..." in only three weeks' time...)
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To: shakespeare_101
You are clueless! As someone who came from a military family the long term effects would be a disaster. As a voluntary Army, this “new age” crap would hurt recruitment in the South (the #1 area for military recruitment) and the Midwest (#2 area for military recruitment). These are both the most conservative and religious areas of the country. This would be like spitting a big loogie in their face and telling them to get use to it. Well, if this passes, get use to a weaker US military at least manpower-wise.
18 posted on 05/22/2008 9:36:06 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Ol' Sparky

>>This is judicial dictatorship.

On a course for civil war. What military assets does the enemy control?


19 posted on 05/22/2008 10:43:37 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: shakespeare_101

As someone who has spent his fair share of time in communal showers, or sleeping in Humvees with other guys - I’ll pass on having an open, practicing homosexual share the tent/Humvee/shower with me.


20 posted on 05/22/2008 5:51:43 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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