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Butt Out! says Sarasota County to smokers looking for work
tampabays10.com ^ | 05/20/08 | Mario Diaz

Posted on 05/20/2008 4:50:32 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

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To: Gabz

“giving up all tax revenues”

GMTA! Thanks for the ping.


41 posted on 05/20/2008 7:43:52 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Smokers should demand tax vouchers.


42 posted on 05/20/2008 7:56:16 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (DonÂ’t run from the Republican Party. Take it back!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper


43 posted on 05/20/2008 7:59:56 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Gorzaloon
I Shrugged.

Been there...

I am looking out toward the mountain that looms above my cabin. The clouds are swirling among the trees up there, and frenzied from the bluster. The river is raging now, but is really just a trout stream where I live. I drive 23+ miles for groceries... and will head for the coast of NC later this summer. I (almost) full time in an RV nowadays.

Rain has started again...and I'm going to light the grill. I bought a whole NY strip for $3.99 pp, and I have 12 more steaks, after this one. Life is good (as long as the scotch lasts!)...

44 posted on 05/20/2008 8:20:39 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: TornadoAlley3; libertarian27; Gabz
Weyco began firing employees who smoke a couple of years ago. One of the employees he fired wasn't even on the company health plan.

Says Weyers, "The biggest frustration in the workplace is the cost of healthcare. Medical plans weren't established to pay for unhealthy lifestyles."

Weyers admits he never really measured how much the smokers he once employed cost him and acknowledged it may not have cost him anything.

Weyers, a former college football coach, works out five times a week and wants his employees to share his values.

Weyco Firing Smoking Employees

45 posted on 05/20/2008 8:55:10 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Gabz
Apparently not. Other counties and government agencies have done this in Florida in the past, with much fanfare of the announcement. However most of the policies have been quietly done away with when said government entities found themselves having a difficult time filling employment needs after eliminating 20-25% of the potential employment pool.

Just because the Government(various county, city and state)has done it doesn't make it legal. Witness the many firearms laws that violate the 2nd amendment. Your point about eliminating much of the work pool is very valid and an excellent observation.

46 posted on 05/20/2008 9:11:04 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Gorzaloon

Local news yesterday described a question on the Sarasota employee application: Have you been tobacco free (e.g. cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco) for the past 12 months?


47 posted on 05/20/2008 9:33:59 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: Gabz

A lady with whom I work is hurtly badly now. Tomorrow is the funeral for her father-in-law who was killed by a 4th time offender drunk driver (driving without a license, of course). Her sister-in-law also sustained brain damage and multiple fractures over her body. Since smoking was banned in public places, maybe the consumption of alochol should also be limited to home use only. I’ll say it again: I’d rather be around a smoker any day than someone who is drinking. We have to stop picking and choosing ills and be consistent and honest.


48 posted on 05/20/2008 10:07:02 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: calex59
Just because the Government(various county, city and state)has done it doesn't make it legal.

I absolutely agree with you, however they have been getting away with it because no one has challenged the policies. A similar policy implmented by a private company (Scott's/Miracle Gro) is being challenged in, I believe, Massachusetts. It will be interesting to see that outcome.

I agree with you in regard to the firearms laws, though I do not believe many folks would be willing to equate this policy with those laws/policies.

49 posted on 05/20/2008 10:34:35 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: TornadoAlley3
The only solution now is to grant smokers the status of a Protected Class under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
50 posted on 05/20/2008 11:19:58 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: ProfoundMan

That was beautiful.


51 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:21 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: TornadoAlley3

This is disgusting. Sometimes I’m embarrassed to be from/live in Florida. As long as cigarettes are sold, you should be able to smoke them without fear of being shunned in the job market. Smoking should be a CHOICE, just like drinking alcohol. Or eating junk food. Or any other thing you do each day, without Big Brother looking over your shoulder. Shudder.


52 posted on 05/20/2008 1:03:35 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: LaineyDee

“We’re not saying you can’t be a jew, we’re not going out and telling the public that you cannot be a jew, we’re just saying that if you are a jew, you are going to be disqualified in the application process of Sarasota County Government”

There...fixed it..

Discrimination is discrimination...no two ways about it...


53 posted on 05/20/2008 3:06:03 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: wally_bert
There is an actual "environmental manager" for the entire facility and I could see this person as some sort of little dictator. It would be just crazy enough to come true. I wouldn't last too long.

He probably wouldn't last too long either. There are just enough gasoline-shorted, nicotine-deprived, hypoglycemic and sexually frustrated people in the world....who would take him out on a bad day. *chuckle*

54 posted on 05/20/2008 3:18:41 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Gabz

in the 70s, smokers were still considered human beings. They didn’t start to turn into something lower than child molesters until the 80s (when the yuppies started to take over). Wasn’t this tried in Florida once before? Seems to me it was (by a sheriff or DA, perhaps), and it wound up being overturned a few years later.


55 posted on 05/20/2008 3:56:38 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Weyers, a former college football coach, works out five times a week and wants his employees to share his values.


There’s the answer in a nutshell.Another boomer who thinks he will live forever. The greediest, most self-centered, most selfish generation that ever polluted this country. I’ve said for years, if World War 2 were fought today-we’d lose. A lot of folks laugh at me when I say that. I’m dead serious. Instead of sticking together, We’d be ratting on each other to the enemy.A lot of Americans today would idolize health-conscious Hitler with his master race ideas.


56 posted on 05/20/2008 4:09:19 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney

I won’t be laughing at you, Ghost. I whole-heartedly agree with what you’ve posted. :-)


57 posted on 05/20/2008 4:11:37 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Madame Dufarge

I call that facism, don’t you? The guts of this person. Hope all if well with you, my dear.


58 posted on 05/20/2008 4:17:40 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
Wasn’t this tried in Florida once before? Seems to me it was (by a sheriff or DA, perhaps), and it wound up being overturned a few years later.

You are correct, and it was both.

59 posted on 05/20/2008 6:00:16 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: GOP_Lady
Kind of exposes the truth lurking behind the curtain.

Hey, he's a private employer and I respect his right to call the shots.

On the other hand, it does lift the veil on the phony "increased health care costs for smokers" argument.

I'm doing fine, thank you dear; and I hope the same is true for you.

60 posted on 05/20/2008 7:00:50 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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